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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Honestly Kane is a shitty human and should be out of the league. But there’s no reason for Edmonton to not do this (other than morality enabling one’s which the league showed long ago they don’t care about).
    Really? A shitty human? Because he’s made some bad decisions as a young man who was handed bucket loads of money at a young age and had no idea how to handle it?

    Or because he used a fake vaccine passport for something that history is going to show to be ineffective (the mandates not the vax itself)? He did his time (21 games) and got vaccinated.

    Or perhaps you are referring to the assaults that nothing has ever came of.

    I admit that issues seem to follow Kane around. He obviously makes some bad decisions. But I really don’t understand why people demonize him so much. In reality, most of the recent issues (vax pass not withstanding) have turned out to be bogus.

    Here’s a nice quick read timeline on Kane’s transgressions:

    https://news.yahoo.com/nhl-timeline-...IuPOcUDB4ZVNcK

    If someone can explain to me why Kane is such a shitty human after reading it, I’m all ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    Really? A shitty human? Because he’s made some bad decisions as a young man who was handed bucket loads of money at a young age and had no idea how to handle it?

    Or because he used a fake vaccine passport for something that history is going to show to be ineffective (the mandates not the vax itself)? He did his time (21 games) and got vaccinated.

    Or perhaps you are referring to the assaults that nothing has ever came of.

    I admit that issues seem to follow Kane around. He obviously makes some bad decisions. But I really don’t understand why people demonize him so much. In reality, most of the recent issues (vax pass not withstanding) have turned out to be bogus.

    Here’s a nice quick read timeline on Kane’s transgressions:

    https://news.yahoo.com/nhl-timeline-...IuPOcUDB4ZVNcK

    If someone can explain to me why Kane is such a shitty human after reading it, I’m all ears.
    Read all of that. I think it’s pretty obvious and clear why Kane is such a shitty human. Connor McDavid, for example, hasn’t had multiple women file assault lawsuits against him. Assault, in my opinion, is not a “mistake”. I’m not sure if it’s laughable or embarrassing that someone would refer to it as such, but it’s probably both.

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    The vaxx thing alone was pretty shitty imo. Especially when he could of just been truthful and gone the Bertuzzi route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    Really? A shitty human? Because he’s made some bad decisions as a young man who was handed bucket loads of money at a young age and had no idea how to handle it?

    Or because he used a fake vaccine passport for something that history is going to show to be ineffective (the mandates not the vax itself)? He did his time (21 games) and got vaccinated.

    Or perhaps you are referring to the assaults that nothing has ever came of.

    I admit that issues seem to follow Kane around. He obviously makes some bad decisions. But I really don’t understand why people demonize him so much. In reality, most of the recent issues (vax pass not withstanding) have turned out to be bogus.

    Here’s a nice quick read timeline on Kane’s transgressions:

    https://news.yahoo.com/nhl-timeline-...IuPOcUDB4ZVNcK

    If someone can explain to me why Kane is such a shitty human after reading it, I’m all ears.
    Your assessment of the assaults “that nothing has ever came of” is exactly why women can’t have any justice when it comes to sexual crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufio.85 View Post
    Your assessment of the assaults “that nothing has ever came of” is exactly why women can’t have any justice when it comes to sexual crimes.
    This 100%. Kane is a great fantasy player, but no doubt a terrible person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufio.85 View Post
    Your assessment of the assaults “that nothing has ever came of” is exactly why women can’t have any justice when it comes to sexual crimes.
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    Really? A shitty human? Because he’s made some bad decisions as a young man who was handed bucket loads of money at a young age and had no idea how to handle it?

    Or because he used a fake vaccine passport for something that history is going to show to be ineffective (the mandates not the vax itself)? He did his time (21 games) and got vaccinated.

    Or perhaps you are referring to the assaults that nothing has ever came of.

    I admit that issues seem to follow Kane around. He obviously makes some bad decisions. But I really don’t understand why people demonize him so much. In reality, most of the recent issues (vax pass not withstanding) have turned out to be bogus.

    Here’s a nice quick read timeline on Kane’s transgressions:

    https://news.yahoo.com/nhl-timeline-...IuPOcUDB4ZVNcK

    If someone can explain to me why Kane is such a shitty human after reading it, I’m all ears.
    Now that he's retired, Oduya has become a bit more open with his thoughts and opinions on hockey, and that includes on former teammates. During an interview in his home country, Oduya was asked point-blank who his least favourite teammate was throughout the years. His honest answer: Evander Kane. Oduya stated it wasn't necessarily that he had run ins with Kane, but that he seemed to drain the energy from the locker room.

    "He's got a bad attitude, I'd say," explained Oduya. "I don't have a problem with people who have a big ego, but there's a difference between an ego where you want to do something, to win, to be the center of attention and all those things – but you're still a good teammate. That's important."

    "You need your team. And with that there was always some kind of... I don't know, it was really weird. A strange feeling," continued Oduya. "I'm not saying he's a bad person, because I don't know him that well, but there was always some kind of resistance there. The team spirit wasn't good."

    Let me recap the Evander Kane experience.
    2009 - rumors of Kane being a difficult teammate in Vancouver surface before the draft - confirmed by coach years later
    2011- Kane asks for a trade from Winnipeg when the team moves from Atlanta
    2012- kicked off his KHL team during the lockout
    2012- stacks of money tweet, right after getting kicked out of the KHL
    2013- posts homophobic tweet about Chris bosh
    2014 - sued for beating the hell out of some dude in Vancouver. Complained the jets didn't support him during this.
    2014 - Kane scratched for missing practice
    2014- the pushups with money on his back tweet
    2015 - Kane shows up dressed inappropriately for a team meeting - buff is pissed, puts his clothes in the shower - kane doesn't show up for the game that night or practice the next day
    2015- he has surgery 2 days later and is out for the year after revealing he had been playing hurt all year
    2015- charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal trespass after he jumped behind the bar at a club - groped one woman, choked another and pulled her hair, and picked a fight with the bouncer after he was asked to leave
    2016 - sued for sexually assaulting a woman in buffalo. His countersuit was dismissed by the judge. Still pending, stayed because he filed bankruptcy
    2016 attends NBA all star game - posts vids of him partying that night, calls the sabres and says he wont be at practice the next day, they suspend him
    2018 - traded to San Jose after relationship with sabres goes publicly toxic and he's benched
    2018 Complains in his Athletic interview that hockey players should be able to market themselves and their individuality in Hockey like they do properly in the NBA and complains hockey culture shuns the "entertainment side of the game"
    2019- Kane is sued by the Cosmopolitan after walking out on a $500k debt, which he wracked up during a playoff series vs the knights - a series in which he lost his cool, sucker punched colin miller and cross checked stastny to get ejected - the sharks famously lost this series
    2021 - Kane files for bankruptcy, after apparently ripping off creditors $26m in debt
    2021- all the stuff with his wife - betting on games, assault, sexual assault, etc. that stuff I can see just being a jilted Ex getting vindictive revenge and don't believe her.
    2021- reports surface that sharks players do not welcome Kane back to the roster, that he generally flouts team rules, is late, misses practices, etc (the third professional team to say this publicly)
    2021- fake vaccine card, suspended 21 games, contract terminated.
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    Kane is definitely a shitty human... and I don't like to say that about people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0e Th0rnton View Post
    Now that he's retired, Oduya has become a bit more open with his thoughts and opinions on hockey, and that includes on former teammates. During an interview in his home country, Oduya was asked point-blank who his least favourite teammate was throughout the years. His honest answer: Evander Kane. Oduya stated it wasn't necessarily that he had run ins with Kane, but that he seemed to drain the energy from the locker room.

    "He's got a bad attitude, I'd say," explained Oduya. "I don't have a problem with people who have a big ego, but there's a difference between an ego where you want to do something, to win, to be the center of attention and all those things – but you're still a good teammate. That's important."

    "You need your team. And with that there was always some kind of... I don't know, it was really weird. A strange feeling," continued Oduya. "I'm not saying he's a bad person, because I don't know him that well, but there was always some kind of resistance there. The team spirit wasn't good."

    Let me recap the Evander Kane experience.
    2009 - rumors of Kane being a difficult teammate in Vancouver surface before the draft - confirmed by coach years later
    2011- Kane asks for a trade from Winnipeg when the team moves from Atlanta
    2012- kicked off his KHL team during the lockout
    2012- stacks of money tweet, right after getting kicked out of the KHL
    2013- posts homophobic tweet about Chris bosh
    2014 - sued for beating the hell out of some dude in Vancouver. Complained the jets didn't support him during this.
    2014 - Kane scratched for missing practice
    2014- the pushups with money on his back tweet
    2015 - Kane shows up dressed inappropriately for a team meeting - buff is pissed, puts his clothes in the shower - kane doesn't show up for the game that night or practice the next day
    2015- he has surgery 2 days later and is out for the year after revealing he had been playing hurt all year
    2015- charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal trespass after he jumped behind the bar at a club - groped one woman, choked another and pulled her hair, and picked a fight with the bouncer after he was asked to leave
    2016 - sued for sexually assaulting a woman in buffalo. His countersuit was dismissed by the judge. Still pending, stayed because he filed bankruptcy
    2016 attends NBA all star game - posts vids of him partying that night, calls the sabres and says he wont be at practice the next day, they suspend him
    2018 - traded to San Jose after relationship with sabres goes publicly toxic and he's benched
    2018 Complains in his Athletic interview that hockey players should be able to market themselves and their individuality in Hockey like they do properly in the NBA and complains hockey culture shuns the "entertainment side of the game"
    2019- Kane is sued by the Cosmopolitan after walking out on a $500k debt, which he wracked up during a playoff series vs the knights - a series in which he lost his cool, sucker punched colin miller and cross checked stastny to get ejected - the sharks famously lost this series
    2021 - Kane files for bankruptcy, after apparently ripping off creditors $26m in debt
    2021- all the stuff with his wife - betting on games, assault, sexual assault, etc. that stuff I can see just being a jilted Ex getting vindictive revenge and don't believe her.
    2021- reports surface that sharks players do not welcome Kane back to the roster, that he generally flouts team rules, is late, misses practices, etc (the third professional team to say this publicly)
    2021- fake vaccine card, suspended 21 games, contract terminated.
    Thank you for posting this. My whole point in asking why people think Kane is a “shitty human” was for someone to actually lay it out, rather than just repeat their statement. I appreciate the well thought out response and timeline layout.

    It still seems to me that most of his major transgressions are 5+ years old. Due to these transgressions, the more recent ones do get magnified. But I can at least understand why some people feel the way they do now.

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    2018 Kane might be the most level headed he's ever been because I agree that the NHL players don't market themselves, or the league doesn't market players like they do in the NBA lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0e Th0rnton View Post
    Now that he's retired, Oduya has become a bit more open with his thoughts and opinions on hockey, and that includes on former teammates. During an interview in his home country, Oduya was asked point-blank who his least favourite teammate was throughout the years. His honest answer: Evander Kane. Oduya stated it wasn't necessarily that he had run ins with Kane, but that he seemed to drain the energy from the locker room.

    "He's got a bad attitude, I'd say," explained Oduya. "I don't have a problem with people who have a big ego, but there's a difference between an ego where you want to do something, to win, to be the center of attention and all those things – but you're still a good teammate. That's important."

    "You need your team. And with that there was always some kind of... I don't know, it was really weird. A strange feeling," continued Oduya. "I'm not saying he's a bad person, because I don't know him that well, but there was always some kind of resistance there. The team spirit wasn't good."

    Let me recap the Evander Kane experience.
    2009 - rumors of Kane being a difficult teammate in Vancouver surface before the draft - confirmed by coach years later
    2011- Kane asks for a trade from Winnipeg when the team moves from Atlanta
    2012- kicked off his KHL team during the lockout
    2012- stacks of money tweet, right after getting kicked out of the KHL
    2013- posts homophobic tweet about Chris bosh
    2014 - sued for beating the hell out of some dude in Vancouver. Complained the jets didn't support him during this.
    2014 - Kane scratched for missing practice
    2014- the pushups with money on his back tweet
    2015 - Kane shows up dressed inappropriately for a team meeting - buff is pissed, puts his clothes in the shower - kane doesn't show up for the game that night or practice the next day
    2015- he has surgery 2 days later and is out for the year after revealing he had been playing hurt all year
    2015- charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal trespass after he jumped behind the bar at a club - groped one woman, choked another and pulled her hair, and picked a fight with the bouncer after he was asked to leave
    2016 - sued for sexually assaulting a woman in buffalo. His countersuit was dismissed by the judge. Still pending, stayed because he filed bankruptcy
    2016 attends NBA all star game - posts vids of him partying that night, calls the sabres and says he wont be at practice the next day, they suspend him
    2018 - traded to San Jose after relationship with sabres goes publicly toxic and he's benched
    2018 Complains in his Athletic interview that hockey players should be able to market themselves and their individuality in Hockey like they do properly in the NBA and complains hockey culture shuns the "entertainment side of the game"
    2019- Kane is sued by the Cosmopolitan after walking out on a $500k debt, which he wracked up during a playoff series vs the knights - a series in which he lost his cool, sucker punched colin miller and cross checked stastny to get ejected - the sharks famously lost this series
    2021 - Kane files for bankruptcy, after apparently ripping off creditors $26m in debt
    2021- all the stuff with his wife - betting on games, assault, sexual assault, etc. that stuff I can see just being a jilted Ex getting vindictive revenge and don't believe her.
    2021- reports surface that sharks players do not welcome Kane back to the roster, that he generally flouts team rules, is late, misses practices, etc (the third professional team to say this publicly)
    2021- fake vaccine card, suspended 21 games, contract terminated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    Thank you for posting this. My whole point in asking why people think Kane is a “shitty human” was for someone to actually lay it out, rather than just repeat their statement. I appreciate the well thought out response and timeline layout.

    It still seems to me that most of his major transgressions are 5+ years old. Due to these transgressions, the more recent ones do get magnified. But I can at least understand why some people feel the way they do now.

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    I don't think k they just get magnified. His constant "late for practice" shtick with every team generally shows his work ethic and attitude.

    It's no different than a regular job where that one guy is late and making excuses constantly and apologizing and known to show attitude and be generally hard to like. His co workers generally begin to dislike him. It sucks the fun and energy out of work and you hope that person transfers or gets enough progressive disciplinary action to get rid of.

    It's easy for me to visualize him being that union worker who arrives exactly on time after being told to stop arriving late, but arrives on time not dressed , clocks in and then takes his sweet time finding his gear and safety shoes and then stops for coffee and to chat with chicks who work in the building before hitting the project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Care to elaborate.
    I believe he’s saying this signing has worked like a champ. Thus far there haven’t been issues and he’s been a great add to the top six. Really great. There was a lot of grousing here about the Oilers courting trouble and Kane wasn’t worth it. That all seems a little silly now. Thus Haha.
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