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    I am an admittedly frustrated Gaborik owner, and I\'m wondering if it\'s time to cut ties. I have a six-player blockbuster deal that I\'m considering sending to a fellow manager.

    My E. Staal / Gaborik / Mueller
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    His Backstrom (c) / Vanek / Hemsky

    It is a roto keeper league, Yahoo format, with scoring stats of G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, and GWG. Full 23-man rosters and we keep 10 after each season. What are your thoughts?
    15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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    Default Gaborik in a keeper...

    Do it.
    The piece of mind of not owning Gaborik is so worth it.

    He wears more princess bandaids than my 3 year old daughter.

    Not.......a ......fan.

    Sorry. Got a little carried away there.
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    -roto - 10 team - keep 20 of 24 - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIM, PPG, PPA, W, SV, SV%

    C - Nathan MacKinnon, Aleksander Barkov, Nick Bjugstad, Jonathon Huberdeau
    LW - Evander Kane, Jaden Schwartz, Brayden Schenn, Chris Kreider, Jonathon Drouin, Sven Baertchi
    RW - Kyle Okposo, Valeri Nichushkin, Gustav Nyquist, Chris Stewart
    D - Oliver Ekman Larsson, Dougie Hamilton, Viktor Hedman, Kevin Shattenkirk, Erik Johnson
    G - Jonathon Bernier, Sergei Bobrovsky, Darcy Kuemper, Robin Lehner

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    REDRUM
    -roto - 10 team - keep 20 of 24 - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIM, PPG, PPA, W, SV, SV%

    C - Nathan MacKinnon, Aleksander Barkov, Nick Bjugstad, Jonathon Huberdeau
    LW - Evander Kane, Jaden Schwartz, Brayden Schenn, Chris Kreider, Jonathon Drouin, Sven Baertchi
    RW - Kyle Okposo, Valeri Nichushkin, Gustav Nyquist, Chris Stewart
    D - Oliver Ekman Larsson, Dougie Hamilton, Viktor Hedman, Kevin Shattenkirk, Erik Johnson
    G - Jonathon Bernier, Sergei Bobrovsky, Darcy Kuemper, Robin Lehner

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    I hear you, Elascom, which is exactly why I\'m looking to move Gaborik. My concern, though, is that I\'m trading away two elite talents (Staal and Gaborik) and I\'m not sure if I\'m getting any back. I want to make sure my frustration-induced bias against Gaborik isn\'t pushing me into a mistake.
    15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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    I view Vanek as an elite talent but this deal in large part depends on what your team looks like beyond the players listed.
    As is you would be giving up a 40-50 goal scorer in Gabby and a 35-45 goal scorer in Stall with Mueller also looking at 30 goals and with his best years still ahead.
    Meanwhile you are getting Vanek who may well pop in 50 but at least should hit 40. Hemsky and Backstrom are both going to get you a heaping of assists and Backstrom also has his best years ahead. In that way Vanek also does as well.
    I guess the question is do you need the goals you are giving up?
    10 team H2H keeper league
    Weekly Rosters:2C 2LW 2RW 4F 5D 2G
    G5 A5 PIM0.3 Shots0.2 +/-1
    W7 SO7 SV0.2 GA-1
    G: Fleury Huet Smith Howard(F) Bishop(F)
    C: B.Richards Briere (RW) Jokinen Laich Zajac Filpulla Duchene (F) Gerbe(F) Schenn(F) Bowman (F)
    LW: Eriksson Elias Sharp Bourque (RW) Tanguay Malone Leino(F)
    RW: E. Staal (C) Boyes Doan Purcell
    D: Chara Kronwall Whitney Aucoin Wisniewski Sekera Vlasic

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    Default Gaborik in a keeper...

    That is a good deal you have on the table. I\'d take it. Especially if G=A.

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    Default Gaborik in a keeper...

    looks like a pretty fair deal to me.
    and like Elascom said ... \"peace of mind\" you can\'t really put a price on that.
    11 Team 6th year Keeper League. Playoffs count. Daily roster setting, 12 F, 6D, 2G.
    G=1, A=1 PPG+1 SHG+2 Hits=.1 BkS=.1 win=2 SO+5

    F: Giroux,Marchand,Kopitar,Stamkos,Voracek,Benn,
    Dupuis,Stastny,Vrbata,Backes,Johnsson,Nyquist,Hert l,Sobotka,Downie
    Baertschi,Grabovski,Frattin,Greening,Clutterbuck,P enner,MacArthur
    D: Kronwall,OEL,Garrison,Suter,S. Jones,
    Harrison,Muzzin,Donovan,Beauchemin
    G: Rinne,Bernier,Reimer,Ellis

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    Hippy Oiler Fan, the rest of my team really needs everything right now! Over the last few seasons, though, I\'ve been the top goal-scoring team and about 4th or 5th in the league in assists. Other key keepers of mine include goal-scorers like Malkin, Nash and Phaneuf (goal-scorer for a dman)... oh yeah, Radulov too.

    I\'m less concerned with specific stats than I am with acquiring the better assets. I\'m not exactly in a position yet to \"fine-tune.\"
    15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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    I traded Gaborik early in the season this year for Vanek. I also had Gaborik all year last season. The peace of mind is worth it, plus Vanek is lighting it up and hardly ever misses a game. I would take the deal. Even if Gaborik were healthy all season he still may not outscore Vanek.
    9 team points/keeper/salary cap (actual salaries/actual cap)
    3C/3RW/3LW/6D/1G/6B
    G/A/+-/PIM/PPP/SHP/FO/ W/SO/SVS/GA

    C-Backstrom/Stamkos/Getzlaf
    RW- Gaborik/Kessel/Giroux
    LW- D.Sedin/ Benn/
    D- Kronwall/Enstrom/Goligoski/
    G- M.A. Fleury/Varlamov

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    JB, there\'s more to the trade than just Gaborik for Vanek. What do you think of the trade overall?
    15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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