Patty kane for caufield/Deangelo/Tolvanen??

[Goertzen]

Got an offer today. Should I trade away Patrick Kane in exchange for cole caufield, Anthony Deangelo, tolvanen, and a 3rd rd pick? I would consider myself to be top 4 team in 12 team league with an ok shot to make noise in the playoffs. Enough return for Kane? Another factor is my average forward age is 32 so I like the idea of getting younger.

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

Definitely no. There may be merit to trying to get younger, but even without knowing specific league settings, I think you can do a lot better.

[jshed2]

Need more details about the league. I could see scenarios where this makes sense (ie a limited keeper league which lets you roll over Caufield & Tolvanen in a farm system for free) but in most I think you should be able to do better.

[Feenom]

I think he may be worth a bit more. IF DeAngelo behaves and IF Tolvanen is supposed to break out and IF CC can be what the Habs hope he can be then this is a good deal. But too many IFs for my liking. Patty is still going to rock it this year so I’d want a bit of certainty coming back.

[Bubba55]

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[Belexus75]

I think if u were offered this mid April you would laugh at it, but CC hype is making you think about it… too many things would need to happen for this to be good enough…hard pass for me…specially if you are competing

[Paches6767]

Caufield is a great piece for Patty Kane... not too sure about the other in this deal, i feel like you can get a bit more. Deangelo should be a non factor here as we have no idea how he's gonna turn out with the Canes short or long term so i look at this as...

P.Kane for Caufield and Tolvanen.

Which is clearly not enough futures for a guy like P.Kane, Caufield i think is gonna be a star but if Tolvanen doesn't pan out you really take a loss here.

[Burnaby_Joe]

If this helps for reference. I moved Patty Kane, Denisenko, and Dobson for John Carlson, J.Norris, and O.Bjorkstrand.

[lucafen4]

short answer no.

Counter with Caufield as a piece sure, but I would stay away from DeAngelo. he might give you 60pts or he could give you a year long team/league suspension. Which Tolvanen is he going to turn into? That post draft superhyped stud? or a 50-65pt complimentary forward.

You need a Grade A return on Kane, blue chips and top 8 1st round picks
This is a blue chip and a bunch of question marks.

If you are a top end team in the league - you don't trade Kane. if you're team is falling apart then you trade block him and be patient.
Don't trade him in camp. Wait till the season starts and teams filter into position. If teams can taste a chance at a title - your return goes way up.


I reject. Remove from my trade block until Christmas... or until a red-hot streak (IE: 20+pts in last 10gp)

[random-d]

I have to give it up to the GM that made that offer though. If you look at the upside on the players offered it looks like a tempting deal and if it weren't for the teams that Caufield and Tolvanen are on I think I would be tempted to snap it up and gamble on Deangelo being added value. I think you could definitely come out even on this deal at the floor, and I have to say in a dynasty league and under the right circumstances, I think this could work. Tolvanen and Caufield should combine for around 100 pts so Deangelo and picks is icing. The critical factor here is not knowing enough about the league and the roster in question. In a vacuum, and assuming the team is on the verge of needing to retool or rebuild (based on the information provided) I think I would ask for a better pick (or and additional pick) and call it good. It won't be long before Kane's name value starts to decline, so the window to get something similar done might be small.

[bbfl1987]

Definitely not enough. Kane will out produce everyone in that offer until he decides to retire. His game has aged beautifully.

[chuckcouples]

Another no vote. Caulfield is a pretty good piece but he's so over-hyped right now so now is not a great time to acquire him.

[Goertzen]

Ok so update… the offer is now:

Lucas Raymond, Cole Caufield, Ryan Ellis, and tarasenko.

I could stash Raymond and caufield on the prospect bench. Maybe tarasenko returns to form?