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    Hi all,

    In my multicat keeper league I picked up Jarry off FAs early in the year when he had a horrid start. I assumed I'd drop him at the end of the year. Now I see FHG has him ranked 8th overall with my league settings - W, SHO, GAA, Save %.

    My Q is whether you think he is potentially a keeper in a league with roughly 120 players kept. He would be replacing one of Hertl, Konency or Sergachev - ardly superstars, but handy in multicat. How do you see him performing? Is Dobber too generous?

    My goalie keepers are:

    Main roster - Lehner
    Prospects - Cal Petersen and Knight
    Farm - Askarov

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    I am not a fan of Jarry. I actually like DeSmith more. I have a feeling Casey regains the role as No. 1. He had it for a short time when Murray was down and out/injured and then struggling.
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    I think Jarry is a top 10 goalie in most formats. Not sure if that makes him a keeper for you, though. There are too many factors to consider of which I'm unaware. For instance, how many teams are in your league and how many goalies are protected? You mention Hertl, Konecny, and Sergachev as one of the players you'd drop if you kept Jarry. I'd need to know how deep you are at Center (Hertl), RW (Konecny), and D (Sergachev), and what categories you use for skaters.
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    Do you only start 1G per day and is it daily changes to your starters?

    Also, whats the difference between your prospect goalies and the farm goalie? Are you able to start Petersen or Knight seeing as they are listed by you as "prospects" or do you have to recall them to your main roster?

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    Do you only start 1G per day and is it daily changes to your starters?

    Also, whats the difference between your prospect goalies and the farm goalie? Are you able to start Petersen or Knight seeing as they are listed by you as "prospects" or do you have to recall them to your main roster?
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    Jarry had a dreadful start to the season last year, but I think a lot of goalies were hurt by the lack of a training camp. Once he got into the season, his number drastically improved. Of course his playoffs were poor but he also didn't have a lot of help. I have Jarry and I do see him as a keeper. Goalies are voodoo any way, but I think he is worth a risk.

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    Thanks, sorry I was a little brief. Multicat League - cats are G A PPP Shots PIMs Hits Blocks Takeaways / W SHO GAA Save%

    We play 4C 8W 6D and 2G weekly.

    Lehner and Petersen are my playable goalies Im already keeping - I can upgrade Knight but would need to free up a roster spot, which is easy enough to do if need be.

    My playable keepers (including prospects)

    C - Matthews Tavares ROR (Hertl?) Dach (P)
    W - Stamkos T Hall Guenzel Konecny Lafreniere(P) Zegras(P) Hoglander(P)
    D - Hamilton Chabot Doughty Letang Sergachev Romanov(P)
    G -Lehner Petersen(P) (Jarry?)

    I am leaning keeping Jarry over Hertl given Herlt has now lost his wing eligibility. Centres are the most easily replaceable position in my league even we only start 32 each week.

    I am not sold on Jarry, but goalies have long been my weak spot and don't want to give one rats top 10 by Dobber and FHG for free




    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    I think Jarry is a top 10 goalie in most formats. Not sure if that makes him a keeper for you, though. There are too many factors to consider of which I'm unaware. For instance, how many teams are in your league and how many goalies are protected? You mention Hertl, Konecny, and Sergachev as one of the players you'd drop if you kept Jarry. I'd need to know how deep you are at Center (Hertl), RW (Konecny), and D (Sergachev), and what categories you use for skaters.

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    with this info, I'd keep Jarry and drop Hertl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    with this info, I'd keep Jarry and drop Hertl.
    I agree with this.
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    Keep Jarry over Hertl.

    He's an above average young goalie who had a poor start and playoffs last year. He's had some significant stretches (last year included) putting up next to elite level numbers, kid just has to figure out the consistency which, isn't all that unusual for goalies in their mid 20s.

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    Jarry isn't that great guys, but whatevas.
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    Im also keeping Jarry over Hertl here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli26 View Post
    Jarry isn't that great guys, but whatevas.
    Perhaps he isn't that great, but I'd still keep him over Hertl in the OP's format.

    If, as you suspect, DeSmith overtakes Jarry at some point, the OP can make an adjustment. I don't think losing Hertl is going to hurt too much.
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    Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
    Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
    Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
    Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke

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    Jarry should be kept. Last year's effort isn't a true reflection of him and the team. I like the moves that PIT have made this year and I do think they'll be competitive enough to make Jarry worthy of a spot. Keep him over Hertl.

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    I think we have to take much of last season’s stats with a grain o salt… that was irregular to say the least and most elite athletes like routines. That said, I trust Hertl to give you what you expect of him. Jarry, I do not… nor do I trust any goalie who’s name doesn’t rhyme with hasilevskee or vellabuck. How many teams in this league, and how many protected Gs? If answered, I’m sorry I missed it.
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    I understand that keeping Jarry over Hertl is a bit crazy here. Jarry had pretty good numbers for a pretty screwed up season. Not making excuses for him but I think he gives the Pens the best chance to win. That defence isn’t exactly stellar but it is good enough with Jarry’s talent to get him over 30+ wins. Am I confident he can get that? More so than Hertl reaching 70 points. Hertl is 27 and theoretically should be heading into his “prime” years. I’m still betting on Jarry. Now watch Hertl have a P/G + season. Good luck
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