Evander Kane bet on games? (EDIT: and paid for WHAT?!)

[rataylor22]

Stopped reading after this completely false statement. I've had more people in my life die from the vaccine then from Covid so I'm going to stop your completely ****ing bullshit 'facts' right there.

I know for sure this is a lie.

Even if it was true (which it's not), that doesn't change the quoted statement, which is true. Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

[Doug Glatt]

Stopped reading after this completely false statement. I've had more people in my life die from the vaccine then from Covid so I'm going to stop your completely ****ing bullshit 'facts' right there.

How many people have died from taking the vaccine, worldwide? Its less than 6,000 people out of billions of doses administered. A 99.9999 percent safety rate. COVID has killed over 700,000 Americans and millions more worldwide.
Did you just totally opt out of mathematics instruction during school?
Honestly I think you are the one who is full of shite buddy.

[rataylor22]

How many people have died from taking the vaccine, worldwide? Its less than 6,000 people out of billions of doses administered. A 99.9999 percent safety rate. COVID has killed over 700,000 Americans and millions more worldwide.
Did you just totally opt out of mathematics instruction during school?
Honestly I think you are the one who is full of shite buddy.

Because sourcing is key: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ave-caused-an/

I rate Invictus's claim as false. As does politifact.

More sourcing: https://covid-101.org/science/how-ma...ne-in-the-u-s/

[Invictus]

My claim isn't false.
You can't post stats to try and disprove my statement, especially posting USA stats when I live in Canada LOL.

I'm sure most of you live in a largely populated area. I do not. My situation is pretty different than yours.

[rataylor22]

My claim isn't false.
You can't post stats to try and disprove my situation LOL. Nevermind posting USA stats when I live in Canada LOL.

I'm sure most of you live in a largely populated area. I do not. My situation is pretty different than yours.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...accine-safety/

I rate your claim as false.

Not that any of this matters. As always, anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

The statement that the Covid vaccines are very safe, very reliable, and very effective is fact, and anyone disingenuously claiming otherwise either doesn't understand math or doesn't understand what a fact is, or both.

[Invictus]

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...accine-safety/

I rate your claim as false.

Not that any of this matters. As always, anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

The statement that the Covid vaccines are very safe, very reliable, and very effective is fact, and anyone disingenuously claiming otherwise either doesn't understand math or doesn't understand what a fact is, or both.

You can try and twist what I said all you want, but doesn't change the fact that stating 'vaccines are 100% safe' is false. You even linked stats showing adverse affects.

No where did I say that vaccines were more dangerous than getting Covid.
You are arguing a point that no one has made.

I don't live in an area affected by Covid.

The Amish community in the area have been the only ones that have gotten it. They only got it when they travelled back to PA in December. Got it and recovered in USA before coming back to Canada. One other one was a Toronto couple who brought it from Toronto, but they completely isolated where they were staying (they owned a cottage here and so lived here during summer months).

[rataylor22]

You can try and twist what I said all you want, but doesn't change the fact that stating 'vaccines are 100% safe' is false. You even linked stats showing adverse affects.

No where did I say that vaccines were more dangerous than getting Covid.
You are arguing a point that no one has made.

I believe you are the one doing that. Quote the previous post that stated "vaccines are 100% safe". I wish you good luck sir/ma'am/they!

I'm not twisting your words at all. You said you know more people who have died from vaccines than from covid, using that anecdotal evidence to refute the claim that "vaccines are very safe, very reliable, and very effective at preventing COVID, especially hospitalization and death".

1) I think your statement is false

2) I know it doesn't matter if it is true or false, it does not successfully refute the original statement you were attempting to refute as lies/bs

There is not one thing in the entire world that is 100% safe, and nobody would be silly enough to make such a claim.

[Atomic Wedgy]

Boys, the thread is going off the rails. Let's stay on topic. Kane, betting on hockey. If you want to throw poo around, do it in the Politics thread where posts wont get deleted and threads wont get closed.

[Invictus]

Hmm seemingly I was the first one that said '100% safe'. I was thinking Doug first said it - That's what I get for trying to debate at work lol.

I think the fact that I can say that I've been more negatively impacted by the vaccine than by Covid itself shows how lucky I am.

Boys, the thread is going off the rails. Let's stay on topic. Kane, betting on hockey. If you want to throw poo around, do it in the Politics thread where posts wont get deleted and threads wont get closed.

I think we good now, was arguing against something I said lol.

I still firmly believe people have no say in what others do with their bodies. Like I think Buffalo is being a piece of shit for withholding Eichel of the surgery of his choice.

[Atomic Wedgy]

https://forums.dobbersports.com/foru...-Get-Political

Here's the correct place to talk about this is you want. Please.... keep on topic for this thread. It is currently way off the rails.

[tweetdrivr]

Like Ozzy sang about.

My guess is Kane gets a fine and gets traded or bought out. He’s like DeAngleo on nuclear horse piss.

[Invictus]

Like Ozzy sang about.

My guess is Kane gets a fine and gets traded or bought out. He’s like DeAngleo on nuclear horse piss.

One would say it would be a *cough* 'Blockbuster trade'

[Sidenown]

Tweetdrivr, I am coming in late, and I am admittedly not going to read all of the thread above....but I thought I read that using a falsified vaccine/medical document has a pretty substantial possible prison sentence associated with it in the USA. If there are grounds for a fine and being bought out, wouldn't it be likely the authorities get involved?

[tweetdrivr]

It’s a fine and potentially 6 months in jail I think. That’s why I think he gets fined and parts ways with the Sharks.

[Sidenown]

That's the penalty for trying to get into Canada with one, but according to Yahoo, "Under U.S. federal law, any person that buys, sells, or produces a fake vaccination card can face up to five years in prison"......