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    Hey Guys
    Out of contention , keepers bolded in Signature as who I think are my next year untouchables.
    Mainly only being offered picks for players now ( I’m sitting last and offers keep coming )

    Dont want to move much , but who should be my last 2 keeper spots ?
    Marchand, Panarin, Couturier , Nylander are locks for me

    Wheeler ?
    but Fiala ?
    ..... Necas is impressive, and worth the spot ?

    Who would you trade off ?
    Only picks are being offered right now ( no real prospects just throw ins )
    and how high a pick is worth it?

    Appreciate all the opinions lately , so much great advice from so many guys !

    Cheers
    12 Team Keeper League, 16 Player Roster, keep 6
    H2H matchups Weekly : 6 forwards , 3 Defense, 1 Goaltender

    G (1), A (1), PPP ( 1 ) GWG (.5) SHP ( .5)
    W(2) SO (1) , OTL (1) SV ( .1 ). GA. ( -1 )

    F: Eichel, Panarin, Boldy, Meier , R.Thomas, Necas, Konecny, Batherson, Strome


    D: Dahlin , Heiskanen, Karlsson, Durzi , Addison
    G: Oettinger, Jarry

    2023 picks 1, 1, 2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9

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    I honestly would put any and all on the table. Non of these players I would say are “untouchable” which honestly shouldn’t be a thing anyway, but that is a discussion for another day.

    panarin is far and away the only guy that you should consider keeping but I wouldn’t be afraid to move him if the price is right. The rest send them out the door. In a 12 team keep 6 league, Marchand and Panarin are the only two worth keeping for a championship team. So send the other 4 out the door and see if you can upgrade to compete for next year. As for your last two keepers it probably does not matter, there will be way better players available in the draft than the last two and honestly probably your bottom 4.
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    Dress 2 G, 6 D, 12 F

    Keep 17 of 32 and Less Than 41gp Career Including Playoffs
    G=2, A=1, +/-=1, Pim=0.2
    W=4, L= -2, SO=5
    F= Parise, Marleau, Kopitar, Nichushkin ,Schwartz, Nyquist, Backes, Backstrom, Perry, Zetterberg, Thornton, Iginla, Lecavalier, Burrows, Goldobin, Jones, Petan, Virtanen, Vrana
    D= S. Weber, Gostisbehere, McDonagh, Miller, Enstrom, Girardi, Colaiacovo, Boyle, Carrick
    G= Lundqvist, Rinne
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    looking at your options, have you looked into trading some of yours picks for another keeper? even in a keep 6, i'd like there'd be some better options out there than wheeler and fiala
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    I am in agreement with some of the other posts here; I would try to move any & all of your players currently for as many high draft picks as you can. Then after the fantasy season is concluded, try to buy some players for low picks who would be thrown back into the Draft pool from the top teams who have more players worth keeping than keeper spots available.

    I have an owner in my keep-5 league who has Draisaitl, Point, Barkov, DeBrincat, Barzal, Huberdeau, Stamkos.... honestly... the 2 worst of those 7 would still be an upgrade over Nylander and Fiala for you... and after the season is over, considering they would just get thrown back into the pool, you try to buy them on the cheap.

    So trade all of your players to amass as many picks as you can... and find an owner(s) who have more quality players than keeper slots, and after the season, buy their 'drops' for cheap mid-round picks. That is what I would do.
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    Skaters CAT: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
    Goalies CAT: W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
    Roster: 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, Util, 2G, 5BN, 3IR

    C: Crosby, Stuetzle, RNH, Couturier
    LW: Ovechkin, Guentzel, Toffoli, Knies
    RW: Fiala, Perron, DeBrusk, Zuccarello
    D: Seider, Hronek, Pietrangelo, Heiskanen, McAvoy, Chychrun
    Util: Ekholm
    G: Vanecek, Gustavsson, UPL, Lyon, Forsburg
    Blue = Bench / Red = IR
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    So , in the spirit of this advice , I have opened up to more trade offer conversation.

    and as I posted in another thread ,

    2 offers are on the table :

    #1
    Panarin + Wheeler + 6th + 10th
    and in return
    J.Hughes + Dahlin + 1st ( 2021 ) + 1st (2022)

    or

    #2
    Wheeler + 6th (2021) + 7th ( 2021)

    return
    3rd (2021) + 1st (2022)

    which is a better option ?
    12 Team Keeper League, 16 Player Roster, keep 6
    H2H matchups Weekly : 6 forwards , 3 Defense, 1 Goaltender

    G (1), A (1), PPP ( 1 ) GWG (.5) SHP ( .5)
    W(2) SO (1) , OTL (1) SV ( .1 ). GA. ( -1 )

    F: Eichel, Panarin, Boldy, Meier , R.Thomas, Necas, Konecny, Batherson, Strome


    D: Dahlin , Heiskanen, Karlsson, Durzi , Addison
    G: Oettinger, Jarry

    2023 picks 1, 1, 2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosbysucks View Post
    So , in the spirit of this advice , I have opened up to more trade offer conversation.

    and as I posted in another thread ,

    2 offers are on the table :

    #1
    Panarin + Wheeler + 6th + 10th
    and in return
    J.Hughes + Dahlin + 1st ( 2021 ) + 1st (2022)

    or

    #2
    Wheeler + 6th (2021) + 7th ( 2021)

    return
    3rd (2021) + 1st (2022)

    which is a better option ?

    I don’t hate either one. But you shouldn’t be giving any picks no matter how late. I really like the first one.
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    Keep 17 of 32 and Less Than 41gp Career Including Playoffs
    G=2, A=1, +/-=1, Pim=0.2
    W=4, L= -2, SO=5
    F= Parise, Marleau, Kopitar, Nichushkin ,Schwartz, Nyquist, Backes, Backstrom, Perry, Zetterberg, Thornton, Iginla, Lecavalier, Burrows, Goldobin, Jones, Petan, Virtanen, Vrana
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    I would target Eichel. He is an elite player and you might be able to use panarin to get him. This might be the only time you could get him straight up or even dare I say eichel +. That would be huge in my opinion.
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    16 Team Lifetime Keeper: Total Fantasy Points; Weekly Changes (Mon.) 32 Man Roster
    Dress 2 G, 6 D, 12 F

    Keep 17 of 32 and Less Than 41gp Career Including Playoffs
    G=2, A=1, +/-=1, Pim=0.2
    W=4, L= -2, SO=5
    F= Parise, Marleau, Kopitar, Nichushkin ,Schwartz, Nyquist, Backes, Backstrom, Perry, Zetterberg, Thornton, Iginla, Lecavalier, Burrows, Goldobin, Jones, Petan, Virtanen, Vrana
    D= S. Weber, Gostisbehere, McDonagh, Miller, Enstrom, Girardi, Colaiacovo, Boyle, Carrick
    G= Lundqvist, Rinne
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    Quote Originally Posted by HRM Fantasy Fan View Post
    I would target Eichel. He is an elite player and you might be able to use panarin to get him. This might be the only time you could get him straight up or even dare I say eichel +. That would be huge in my opinion.
    As much as I like the idea , Eichel is held by a GM that is at the bottom as well , and is willing to just wait it out until next year for a re-bound.
    12 Team Keeper League, 16 Player Roster, keep 6
    H2H matchups Weekly : 6 forwards , 3 Defense, 1 Goaltender

    G (1), A (1), PPP ( 1 ) GWG (.5) SHP ( .5)
    W(2) SO (1) , OTL (1) SV ( .1 ). GA. ( -1 )

    F: Eichel, Panarin, Boldy, Meier , R.Thomas, Necas, Konecny, Batherson, Strome


    D: Dahlin , Heiskanen, Karlsson, Durzi , Addison
    G: Oettinger, Jarry

    2023 picks 1, 1, 2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9

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    Okay here is an idea. Go to the first or second place team and offer him Marchand and anyone else not named panarin for one of his top keepers plus picks preferably firsts.
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    16 Team Lifetime Keeper: Total Fantasy Points; Weekly Changes (Mon.) 32 Man Roster
    Dress 2 G, 6 D, 12 F

    Keep 17 of 32 and Less Than 41gp Career Including Playoffs
    G=2, A=1, +/-=1, Pim=0.2
    W=4, L= -2, SO=5
    F= Parise, Marleau, Kopitar, Nichushkin ,Schwartz, Nyquist, Backes, Backstrom, Perry, Zetterberg, Thornton, Iginla, Lecavalier, Burrows, Goldobin, Jones, Petan, Virtanen, Vrana
    D= S. Weber, Gostisbehere, McDonagh, Miller, Enstrom, Girardi, Colaiacovo, Boyle, Carrick
    G= Lundqvist, Rinne
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    Quote Originally Posted by HRM Fantasy Fan View Post
    I don’t hate either one. But you shouldn’t be giving any picks no matter how late. I really like the first one.
    It is likely the case that you have to balance picks for the re-draft, that each owner 'MUST' have 'X' amount of picks. Or rather, it doesn't make any sense for the original owner to hold extra picks for roster spots he doesn't have. Why not use the 6th and 10th to improve the return on the picks.

    As for those 2 options; Getting Jack Hughes would be nice, but I wouldn't want to give up Panarin so easily. And With all of the turmoil in Buffalo, I don't know if Dahlin is there yet.

    I would go for the second option, and move Wheeler for straight picks.

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    Skaters CAT: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
    Goalies CAT: W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
    Roster: 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, Util, 2G, 5BN, 3IR

    C: Crosby, Stuetzle, RNH, Couturier
    LW: Ovechkin, Guentzel, Toffoli, Knies
    RW: Fiala, Perron, DeBrusk, Zuccarello
    D: Seider, Hronek, Pietrangelo, Heiskanen, McAvoy, Chychrun
    Util: Ekholm
    G: Vanecek, Gustavsson, UPL, Lyon, Forsburg
    Blue = Bench / Red = IR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosbysucks View Post
    So , in the spirit of this advice , I have opened up to more trade offer conversation.

    and as I posted in another thread ,

    2 offers are on the table :

    #1
    Panarin + Wheeler + 6th + 10th
    and in return
    J.Hughes + Dahlin + 1st ( 2021 ) + 1st (2022)

    or

    #2
    Wheeler + 6th (2021) + 7th ( 2021)

    return
    3rd (2021) + 1st (2022)

    which is a better option ?
    The first option is a bit risky. As other's have stated Dahlin doesn't exactly inspire confidence. I think you can get more for Panarin though.

    Second option seems okay, but I don't like the idea of giving up 2 picks in 2021. See if you can change one of them to 2022.
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    16 Keepers (G=2 Keeper spots)
    83.5M Weekly AAV - Bench does not count towards salary cap

    F/D: G, A, PPA, PPG, +/-, Hits, BLKS, Shifts (0.5), TOI (0.5), PEN
    G: GAA, Saves, SPCT, TOI, Wins, SO, OTL (0.5)

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    E.Kane, Caufield, Eichel, Batherson, Malkin, Dach
    Kempe, Greig, Tolvanen, Zary, P.Kane, Foegele, Dowd

    D: Theodore, Chychrun, Drysdale, McAvoy, Matheson, Okhotiuk, M. Roy, Fehervary, Perbix, Martinez, M. Anderson

    G: Thompson, Vanecek, UPL, Lyon, Binnington

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    Quote Originally Posted by E63Wagon View Post
    The first option is a bit risky. As other's have stated Dahlin doesn't exactly inspire confidence. I think you can get more for Panarin though.

    Second option seems okay, but I don't like the idea of giving up 2 picks in 2021. See if you can change one of them to 2022.
    Actually my mistake in typing

    the picks are matching years to give and take pick upgrades
    12 Team Keeper League, 16 Player Roster, keep 6
    H2H matchups Weekly : 6 forwards , 3 Defense, 1 Goaltender

    G (1), A (1), PPP ( 1 ) GWG (.5) SHP ( .5)
    W(2) SO (1) , OTL (1) SV ( .1 ). GA. ( -1 )

    F: Eichel, Panarin, Boldy, Meier , R.Thomas, Necas, Konecny, Batherson, Strome


    D: Dahlin , Heiskanen, Karlsson, Durzi , Addison
    G: Oettinger, Jarry

    2023 picks 1, 1, 2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9

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    In a 12 team keep 6, I would swing for the fences to get an elite elite elite player.

    I think you should keep Panarin. But anyone else I would try to bundle for another player on a similar level as Panarin. Or, as it looks like you aren't keeping a goalie, maybe try to get a tier 1 or 2 goalie that you can keep for a few years to come.
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    20wk Reg season+3Rd of Playoff
    Keep 10

    G+A=1pt, Dman G+A=1.5pt, PPG=1pt, PPA=0.5pt, SHG=1pt, SHA=0.5pt, ShootoutG=0.25pt, GWG=1pt, Hatty=3pt, DMan Hatty=5pt, +/- (For D only)=+/- 0.5pt, W=2pt, L=-1pt, OTL=1pt, ShootoutL=0.5pt, SO=1pt, S=0.1pt, GA=-0.5pt, Goalie Goal=5pt

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    C:Zibanejad Stamkos Schmaltz
    LW:Panarin Kaprizov Bunting Barbashev D.Strome
    RW:Keller Terry Necas Kakko Raddysh
    D: Carlson Theodore Morrissey Matheson
    G:Vasilevskiy Sorokin Merzlikins Johansson
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