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    If i would like to trade for 1 of these 2 goalies...who would you rather have?

    And what do u think is the price?

    I know both owners don‘t need a goaöie in return...so what should i offer?

    Thanks for your help

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    Default Re: Shesterkin/Samsonov?

    wait and see if either falters to start the year, the price is sky high currently.

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    Both would be pricey to acquire right now, samsonov a little less. Would have to ask the gm who he likes but I’d hold onto mcdavid, Mathews and Pastrnak as goalies too risky to give up guys like that

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    Short-term, if Wsh doesn't address losing Lundqvist, Samsonov. I still think Wsh is a better team then the Rags, for this year at least and he will be leaned on more heavy then Shesty with George backing him up (again unless Wsh decides to address their back-up goalie situation).

    Long-term, Shesty all the way. Wsh is headed into tire-fire territory potentially in a few years. Backstrom has that new huge contract, good chance Ovi will get a big contract as well. Two aging stars locked up to big contracts, Carlson isn't getting any younger and the Caps have very little coming up the pipeline on the backend. Up front Caps have some nice pieces to add in the next couple of years and Vrana looks like a legit top six player, but this is a team that I see having a drastic downswing in fortunes in the next 2-3 years.
    Rags, if they don't screw it up, look primed to be one of the top teams in the East in a couple of years and Shesty should, hopefully, play most of his prime years on a perennial playoff team in the East.

    That being said, price is likely very high for both of them at this time. Price could go down if one/both of them falter to start the year...price could also go up if both of them start off well.

    tl;dr If it's a one-two year term your looking at, I like Sammy a little bit better. If it's with long-term in mind, I like Shesty a lot better.
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    Default Re: Shesterkin/Samsonov?

    Ok so what would be a good offer for one of them?
    Hedman or Stamkos i e.?

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    I think that your goaltending is strong enough this year that you should not make a trade and instead stay loaded up front and go for the W.

    That makes me think that you're thinking about the future, and as noted above, I would want Shesterkin for that.

    Byfield or Kaprizov are probably fair offers (highly touted prospects for a goalie who is still essentially a highly touted prospect). If I was the other owner and truly didn't need a goalie back, I would consider either of those two guys (but probably want a pick thrown in), or I would consider Makar, McDavid, Matthews, Guentzel, Pastrnak. Probably wouldn't be interested in much else as a conversation starter.

    Of course, I don't know his roster, all this is a bit of a blind answer. I hope that it helps.

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    That‘s why i‘m torn...on one side i think it‘s ok and i‘m still a contender this year!...but on the other side Rasks future is uncertain...Holtby is getting older...

    Probably i‘ll try it with Kaprizov or Byfield...that‘s a good point!

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    He offered me Shesterkin+Mantha+his 1st rounder next season for Hedman+Bjorkstrand + 2nd round

    We just have 3 rounds of drafting,so it‘s actually more of a prospect draft!

    Don‘t know what i should do...probably counter and try to get Hall involved in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik18 View Post
    He offered me Shesterkin+Mantha+his 1st rounder next season for Hedman+Bjorkstrand + 2nd round

    We just have 3 rounds of drafting, so it‘s actually more of a prospect draft!

    Don‘t know what i should do...probably counter and try to get Hall involved in there?
    Seems reasonable to me. I'm curious to see what anyone else says because I always find it hard to evaluate goalie for skater trades. That said, Mantha for Bjorkstrand seems fair and then Hedman and a 2 for Shesterkin and a 1st is reasonable given all he hype around him. I made a similar move a few season ago for Helle. you could then try and flip one of your other goalies to patch the hole at D.
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    it's a pretty fair offer. it's going to take a Hedman to pay for the Shest-hype-train.

    You need a goalie more than you need Hedman on D... it's also an area of relative strength to fill a big roster need

    I would pull the trigger. I believe it's a win-win deal for both teams.
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    I would accept that offer

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    What about the Mantha-Bjorkstrand thing!?
    I mesn i really like Bjorkstrand snd he could go off this season?
    Or id Mantha the better option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik18 View Post
    What about the Mantha-Bjorkstrand thing!?
    I mesn i really like Bjorkstrand snd he could go off this season?
    Or id Mantha the better option?
    I have them very close. Both are similar ages, both are Bandaid boys, When healthy both are PP1. There point output should be similar.

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    So its down to Hedman+2nd for Shest+1st

    But isn‘t next years draft that good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik18 View Post
    So its down to Hedman+2nd for Shest+1st

    But isn‘t next years draft that good?
    it's D heavy... some legit #1Dmen floating there. I think you'll find as we get closer there will be some high end forwards come to light as well. Might be a slower burn for fantasy rewards type draft 2-3years for most to gain traction... it's still a good crop.
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