I don't think that's an overpay. Seems about right.
In a previous post I got some great advice about some of my final drops. The thread ended with a comment that anyone I drop will likely be picked up in the draft, and if I could do a 2 for 1 deal that would be wisest.
I started asking other GMs what roster holes they were trying to fill. One GM said he was looking for younger scoring but no one too young. Only players off limits were Makar, Quinn, and Vasi. In previous trades, I know this fella likes consistency (he is perpetually top 3) and will take an older player over a younger one every time.
So I offered Lindholm and Hischier for Pietrangelo. He likes Line 1 and PP1 players, both Lindholm and Hischier satisfy what he's looking for.
Is this an overpay? Would you rather see a player dropped or overpay?
If not an overpay, how would you sweeten this?
Or is this spot on?
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky
I don't think that's an overpay. Seems about right.
McDavid/Necas/ Kucherov/Bjorkstrand/Rust/Nugent Hopkins/Cirelli/Zegras/- Letang/Morrissey/Dahlin - Swayman/Saros/Skinner
Prospects include:
McTavish/Clarke/Bordeleau
Dumais/Korchinski/Hutson
Don't worry I'm not going to say anything more than I have to. If that.
Which Lindholm? Hampus or Elias?
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
Elias Lindholm + Nico Hischier is a big overpay for Pietrangelo.
Hampus Lindholm + Nico Hischier is a big underpay for Pietrangelo.
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky
Ideally you ask for a token pick with a 2 for 1. But everyone will know you are in a squeeze and will use that leverage against you. If you are going to have to drop one of these guys for nothing, it's equivalent to trading one of these players straight up for AP.
You could also look around at other top D players; if you are offering Lindholm and Hischier I think you could get lots of nibbles on that offer.
I appreciate the perspective that this deal is worth viewing as a straight up 1for1 trade considering I have to drop one anyway. There is no way I get AP in a 1for1 with either of those players.
Should this GM agree, I feel like it's a pretty big win. Otherwise, I lose one of these F for nothing.
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky
Id consider dropping Boeser over Lindholm/Hischier
8 Team Keeper League
Keep 35 at the end of the year+5 JR slots(can be kept for 3 yrs after draft or less than 10 NHL games)
Points(4) PIM(0.5) +\-(0.5) Wins(5) SO(5) GA(-0.5) Save(0.1)
Roster:
17F
8D
3G
12Farm
5 JR spots
F: Landeskog Mackinnon Kaprizov Panarin Rantanen Bratt Buchnevich Hintz
Kreider Svechnikov Marner T. Wilson Guentzel Rust Fiala Aho Meier
D: Carlson Toews Theodore Krug Klingberg Barrie Ekblad Weegar
G: Bobrovsky Saros Vasilevskiy
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JRs: Bourgault L. Cormier Lambos Olausson Zellweger
IR: Couturier/Ellis
how about trying to trade Boser and Hischier for AP? its still overpay but if you need to drop one forward at least keep best one and make this trade.
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
That's an interesting point. Without Toffoli coming back or a player like him, I see Boeser having more exposure to the Top Line and PP1. When he plays with Pettersson and Miller he lights it up. If he is put on Line 2, then yes I'd move him and keep Lindholm/Hischier.
Appreciate you bringing Boeser into the mix.
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky
9 Team Points Only Dynasty - 27 Player Roster (17 Keepers) - 12 F, 6 D, 2 UTL, 2 G, 5 Bench - 2.5G, 2A, 1PP, 2SHG, 1SHA, 3W, 2SO, 1OTL, 0.05SV
F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
G: Shesterkin, Bobrovsky