Re: Scoring Cats - Is there such a thing as a perfect balance?
Originally Posted by
Pengwin7
In a 10-14 team league, start 2G, there's enough positional slotting of goalies to go with a 9/4 (or 10/4) category split, I believe that's ideal. A 12-18 player skater group should carry double+ of the goalies.
In a 20-24 team league, start 1G, I'd say the single goalie is too valuable so decreasing to a 10/3 split is smarter.
An absolute must to upweight scoring is simply to carry G,A,P all as categories.
People who don't think hard enough always say "This seems redundant - to have points, we already have G & A".
Adding points simply upweights G, A to 1.5x themselves as a category (well, maybe more like Gx1.3 and Ax1.7)... but you get the picture.
For me, SHO is too random and shouldn't be a cat for goalies, that would bring you down to 4 there, good.
For me, FOW is better than FO%... and I'd add points.
I also HATE, HATE, HATE "SHP".
The best penalty killers may be on for 100 kills, give up 3 goals, kill 97... have 0 shp during that time.
Whereas a bigger risk taker may be on for 100 kills, give up 10 goals, kill 90 and score 2shp during that time.
But... you reward the guy that gets 2 SHP and was a worse penalty killer... nah, that's doing.it.wrong. (IMO)
Agreed with all of this, especially on the points front. Having all of G, A, and P is great for two reasons, one, as Pengwin pointed out it is purposefully redundant Scoring and assisting on goals is still how you win in hockey so I want it to be an automatic 2 category score for either (It's actually 3 as you get either a +/- or STP).
Also agreed that SHP are too infrequent and the wrong way to reward great penalty killers. STP seems fine as it's an "upgrade" to PPP, in my perfect world their would be a category scored (pppx1)+ (shp x 2) but I have yet to see that. STP is pretty great.
The only area I disagree is that I prefer FO% to FOW. I prefer FO%. FOW is too easy to game by collecting multiple centres who have wing eligibility and loading up. Further, I don't see a guy who simply wins and loses a lot of FOs as someone who should be rewarded. A guy who goes 8W-10L is not (IMO) more valuable than a guy who goes 6W-2L in a game. FO% to me is like a +/- you have to consider the losses as well and a net winning number does not properly do that, IMO.
12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
NO IR