Not a chance.
Ovy just passed Lemieux for most career goals and is about to start passing some real elite company in the next few years, so let’s cut to the chase and go right to the top
Tale of the Tape
Wayne Gretzky The “Great One”
Age: 58
Seasons: 20
GP: 1,487
Goals: 894
Alexander Ovechkin “The Great Eight”
Age: 34 (35 in September)
Seasons: 14
GP: 1,084
Goals: 692
894 – 658 = 202 Goals Behind
Some math:
16 more on the season (50 on the year) leaves 186 behind Gretzky
50
50
40
35
35
30 –> 40 years old
240 more goals by the time he is 40, he may play past that.
Ovechkin still has a lethal shot and has to date avoided any long-term injuries. No Fence Sitting, I say he passes Gretzky. Mainly because I think he will simply keep playing until he does
12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
NO IR
Not a chance.
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10% chance.
Jumps if he gets 50goals next yr.
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G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
Ima say no.
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24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%
C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
IR- Norris(C)
IR- Fantilli(C)
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Heck yes, he’s going to crack 900.
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G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
Under 250 gp farm
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Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
i think he can score 30 at 40....but question is will he play this long..if he does, i would say he passes the record..
as is he is scoring at .63 goals per game where Gretz scored at .60
also average goals per game was about 1 goal more when Gretz played than in Ovi era. You can make an argument he is quite a bit better goal scorer as is...but we will see if he can get the actual numbers record.
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
I am rooting for him that is for sure. Not sure I would put money on it though. Will Ovi want to play until 40? I am not sure. If he does there is a chance.
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Forward 5-G 3-A 1.0 STP
D-Men 6-G 4-A 1.5 STP
.35 Shot .4 Hit .4 Block .1 FOW
Goalie 6.5 Win .25 Save -2.5 GA 2-SO
C- Larkin, Hischer, Horvat, R. Thomas
LW- Stamkos, Hyman, Kreider, Lehkonen,
RW- Laine, Marchessault, Toffoli. Buchnevich
D- Doughty, Burns, Letang, Andersson (IR), Faulk, Toews, Pionk, Petry
G- Vasilevskiy, Copley, Andersen
I think we can say he is probably the best goal scorer in NHL history (different eras so I am sure there are differing opinions) as the league sv% in the 80s was like 0.890 and since 2005 it has probably been about 0.915. So if he was around back there we would probably see abnormal goal totals haha
I don't think he gets there but I think he can clear 801.
He missed his 18yo season which could have brought 30-55 goals, the year the Caps went full defense only under Boudreau, Oates and the Hunter years where he scored like 30-35 (taking probably 40-60 goals away there), and the lockout shortened 48 game year where he scored 32 - that could have been another 60+ year.
So if we could somehow give him back those 90 goals (conservative estimate) he would be at 782 right now and would for sure pass Wayne. In an era of lower goal scoring numbers, Trotz-like defense systems, and bigger goalies his totals are already crazy
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Stats: G, A, STP, +/-, GWG+, H+B, PIM, W, SV, SV%, SO
C: Hischer, Zib, J.Hughes
LW: Guentzel, Svechnikov
RW: Bratt, Pastrnak
D: Hamilton, Weegar
G: Merzlikins, Samsonov, Murray
Rookies: Too many awesome prospects to list
Yahoo - Keep 3, 12 team H2H.
Stats: G, A, PTS, +/-, PPP, SHP, PIM, GWG, HIT, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SV, SO
Keepers: Zibanejed, Connor, Svechnikov
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Ever the optimist I say yes. He's showing no slow down signs and his game should age well as a pp specialist. Stand there and rip one timers. If he can gets 15ish more this year and then 50 next year (doable) he'll be sitting at 755ish at 35. If he plays 6 more seasons he will have to average 23 goals a year.
I just think he plays until he gets it and he will be able to score 20 goals at 40. The key is really the next two years, if he can get 100 over the next two seasons he's going to get there.
Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2
Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO
Forwards:
C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund
Defense:
B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin
Goalie:
J. Binnington
IR (2 max):
Put me down for YES
I voted no. Just too many factors working against him. First, Ovechkin must stay healthy. Second, he has to play till at least the age of 40. Third, he has to remain extremely productive in his late 30s, which is when most players severely decline.
IMO, Ovechkin is the greatest goal scorer of all time, even if he doesn't end up with the most goals of all time. I doubt there are many who'd argue otherwise.
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1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO
Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke
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I've learned to stop betting against Ovie. Put me down in the yes column.
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If Ovi plays till he is 40 then my answer is yes, he beats the great one in goals.
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Really the question is just do you think Ovechkin will play until ~40. He's said previously in interviews he wouldn't keep playing just to break the record, so he might not just hang around. He easily will break it if he plays another 5 seasons after this, and he's obviously the best goal scorer of all time.Corey Masisak @cmasisak22
Wayne Gretzky scored 217 goals from his age-30 season until the end of his career (640 games).
Alex Ovechkin now has 217 goals since the start of his age-30 season (373 games).
I voted yes for a few reasons:
- quite simply, scoring goals is an emotional rush for anyone regardless of age and I don't see Ovechkin getting bored.
- Ovy's usage will shift over time to preserve his most valuable contribution: goals, which will extend his career.
- Ovy is not just generational in on-ice talent, but also conditioning, mental toughness, etc. These help a player endure lots of games.
- Washington has secured, long-term, high end talent that Ovy enjoys playing with: Kuzy, Backstrom, Carlson...those three alone will incentivize Ovechkin to play another 5-6 years
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C: Crosby, Malkin, Larkin, Hartman, McBain, Joshua
RW: Rantanen, Konecny, Strome, Batherson, Zetterland
LW: Buchnevich, Ehlers, Marchessault, Bertuzzi, Acciari
D: McNabb, Ferraro, Hakanpaa, Lyabushkin, Samuelsson, Bernard-Docker, Emberson
G: Merzlikens, Daccord, Samsonov
Prospects: Kurich, Lucius, Pelletier, Cristall, Yurov, Beckman, Brisson, Dean, Phillips, Poitras