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    Im a leafs fan and our scoring is goal and sog weighted. That being said I know I lose 5 years if I move Barkov- hes 24 to Tavs 29.

    Goals 4, Assists 3, Sogs 0.5, Pims 0.5, PPP +1, GWG +1

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    I personally would keep Tavares. I like the players that surround him.
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    barkov should be easy choice here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keppada View Post
    barkov should be easy choice here
    Care to elaborate? Just on age? I always try to convey to people the impact of sogs in this league- they are HUGE! Almost to the point its an imbalance- lol! Barkov is trending down in that department as he has more and more talented players to defer to and I actually dont see that changing too drastically. Tavares on the other hand puts the "V" in shot volume!! Dont think about that wordplay too hard- it makes more sense the less you think about it :P All vokes aside though- he shoots almost 100 more per season- thats a big deal in our format.

    Anyways- would love to hear your opinion. pretty easy, is a pretty heady claim, so i wouldnt mind a pretty obvious reason why...

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    Age is the biggest factor here yes. not only because you get more years from barkov but its also likely that tavares has already played his best season and barkov could still have little bit more in him. i mean it looks like he has the talent to break 100p. looks like your team is not that old so you have more years of competing with barkov imo. also florida should get better in couple next years as they have really good prospects in the system and already loaded top 6
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    I think I would take Barkov here as well. Age is a huge consideration. Plus, Tavares has likely seen his best days whereas Barkov likely has a few career bests left in him around the 100 point range. The supporting cast in Florida may not be quite as strong as TO, but they are no slouches either.
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    Tavares is 29. Age should not be considered a factor for 3+ years.

    You shouldn't look 3+ years ahead when building a fantasy hockey team...

    Therefore, age should not be considered in your decision in this comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Tavares is 29. Age should not be considered a factor for 3+ years.

    You shouldn't look 3+ years ahead when building a fantasy hockey team...

    Therefore, age should not be considered in your decision in this comparison
    I concur- just wanted some clarity on all the Barkov votes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting_Emu View Post
    I concur- just wanted some clarity on all the Barkov votes...
    "He's younger" doesn't cut it for me.

    Take the better G scorer in a G-weighted pool.
    You can trade Tavares in 3yrs when age becomes a point of discussion
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    "He's younger" doesn't cut it for me.

    Take the better G scorer in a G-weighted pool.
    You can trade Tavares in 3yrs when age becomes a point of discussion
    The fact that Barkov quite likely has his best seasons yet to come (directly due to age) does matter though. Barkov undisputed number #1C, vs Tavares who vies for that position with Matthews and will likely be usurped soon if not already. Finally, TO limits their stars icetime somewhat whereas Barkov leads the league in icetime amongst forwards (2-3 min more a night than Tavares).

    Thus, between age, a higher ceiling, and the other factors mentioned I prefer Barkov.

    Pretty damn close though. Potato patato. Choose the player and team you like best
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    I will add to the Barkov pool. I also support the choice because it 2 season's in a row his sog have been over 200. Career shooting% of 13.7.
    Last season was his first of what should be many 30+ goal seasons with 90+ pts.

    Tavares just completed his first 40+ goal season at age 28. He is 29 now. Into his 11th season. Not including last season he has only managed 30+ goals 4 other times in his career. He has also never broke 90+ pts.

    On top of 35 goals Barkov had 61 assists.

    Tavares has 83 career powerplay points and 42 GWG.
    Barkov 36 powerplay points and 25 GWG.
    Last point. Barkov had 13 powerplay pts last season to Tavares with 10 powerplay points.

    So yeah 5 yrs younger better offensive ceiling and already has that 90+ point season before he was 25 yrs old. I'd be going Barkov and betting on him and Huberdeau to continue being the straw that stirs the Florida Panthers drink.

    Though both are damn good players to have on any team. So roll with what you like best.

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    I'd actually go with Barkov here. Offensively they are close enough that age has to be a consideration, and I'm not one to worry about age as long as the older player is the better of the two. Not so much the case here.
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