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    I recently acquired Hamilton for Reinhart in a keeper roto league and am wondering what you guys think his future holds. He's been on 3 teams now and never really given the reins on the PP. Does this imply he's just not built to be a leading QB or that he's just always behind someone who does it better. I see him ranked highly on most fantasy lists but his opportunity seems quite limited, at least for now.

    Do you think Hamilton stays with Carolina?

    Point projections for next year?

    Keeper value next 3-5 years. Hold him or deal him while his name value is still high.

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    To answer the actual questions:
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    Hold him, his value isn't going to drop, really it can only go up if he gets the PP1 slot.

    I think he's a talented fantasy D that just hasn't put everything together with some luck over a full season yet. In the tier below guys like Carlson, Josi, Letang.
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    Default Re: What is up with Dougie Hamilton?

    I'm pretty high on him still. I believe 50 is achievable next year and for the next few...might not get to 50, but I feel his floor is low 40s, so he is a pretty safe option.

    I don't think Faulk will be around much longer, so Hamilton's PP opportunities should increase.
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    I also agree that he approaches a 50-point-pace next season provided he's given most of the 1st PP minutes. High volume shooter with huge pedigree and upside.
    Weird, because in my fantasy circles I've always gotten the impression that he's valued quite low. I acquired him before last season in a package that sent Leddy the other way. The deal was pretty even IMO but I just really happy to get Hamilton as he was the main target of my trade offers.
    I also think that Faulk leaves Carolina before Hamilton does.

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    I would not only hold Dougie, but buy where you can.... The fact that he hasn't held down a PP1 anywhere actually might suppress his perceived value... if anything he is undervalued

    For what its worth: Over the last 5 seasons, he is among only 6 Dmen with 70 or more goals - The others are Burns, OEL, Giordano, Weber and Josi.

    And if your league counts shots, he's elite - 3rd most in the NHL amoung Dmen over last 5 yrs, behind only Burns and Josi.


    All this tells me is, he's got more to go if/when he gets plum deployment


    Also he's only 26... look what guys like Giordano and Burns can do at their age


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    Thanks guys, I feel much better about him after your responses. I loved him in Calgary and was hyped for his move to Carolina but I could not believe he played almost zero PP1 minutes and was stuck behind Faulk (who still somehow managed less points than Dougie). My concern is mostly that if he can't surpass Faulk naturally, what does that say about his true PP potential, at least under the current coach.

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    He's primed to hit 50-60 as soon as he gets proper deployment. Faulk's leash has been long but Hamilton could force the issue even if faulk isn't traded. We know his floor, so worst case scenario (if deployment doesn't really change), we see another 40ish point season with good peripherals. I also love that he just turned 26, his best season is ahead of him. I'm a buyer as well.
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    Even low 40s production with his shot rates is incredibly valuable in certain types of leagues. He should get PP1 deployment eventually in Carolina, it's kind of perplexing that they're still trotting out Faulk as much as they have been. I think it's still a good time to buy Hamilton, he's still only 26 years old and there's definitely untapped upside just due to inconsistent deployment.

    I think 50 points is definitely achievable, even without taking over the PP1 completely from Faulk. If he actually gets all the good offensive minutes and plum deployment, we're talking about a 60-point player. All of his underlying numbers are consistently filthy, and over a three-year sample he's actually drastically underperformed relative to his xG and CF on the powerplay, so there's definitely a lot of room for improvement. His xG and CF both at 5v5 and powerplay impacts are out of this world. Very, very underrated potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpin_co View Post
    I would not only hold Dougie, but buy where you can.... The fact that he hasn't held down a PP1 anywhere actually might suppress his perceived value... if anything he is undervalued

    For what its worth: Over the last 5 seasons, he is among only 6 Dmen with 70 or more goals - The others are Burns, OEL, Giordano, Weber and Josi.

    And if your league counts shots, he's elite - 3rd most in the NHL amoung Dmen over last 5 yrs, behind only Burns and Josi.


    All this tells me is, he's got more to go if/when he gets plum deployment


    Also he's only 26... look what guys like Giordano and Burns can do at their age


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    I think he gets moved because gm's / coaches are expecting a bit more from him physically and I think teams aquiring him believe their coaching staff can steer him in that direction . In the isles-canes series I dont think he touched an isles forward until the tap to the head of brock nelson during the hand shakes when the series was over.

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