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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I can't wait for Maenalanen to sign!





    Seriously, though...that is an impressive list. Odds are we won't ever see so many high-end RFAs coming off their ELCs at the same time ever again (especially when you consider we also had Meier, Aho, and Werenski). Such a great crop of young players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    And to add, Marner isn't really any different than Point, Rantanen, Laine, Connor, Tkachuk, etc., yet he is the one most vilified by fans/media. I guess that's the issue with playing in Toronto, which perhaps not coincidentally is why he wants a 5-year deal so he can leave the Leafs as soon as possible and no longer be a part of the insanity.
    C’mon man, I usually enjoy your opinions and posts but this one is a bit much. The difference is none of those guys would have turned down $9.5M x 3 or $11M x 7 or 8. And to say he wants a 5 year deal so he can leave Toronto is ridiculous. There were offer sheets presented and it was reported he didn’t sign in fear of the Leafs not matching. Your comment comes across as something out of the original poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DusterDave View Post
    C’mon man, I usually enjoy your opinions and posts but this one is a bit much. The difference is none of those guys would have turned down $9.5M x 3 or $11M x 7 or 8...
    We don't know what any of the players have turned down. I would not be shocked at all if term is part of the reason for some of these hold ups.

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    And to say he wants a 5 year deal so he can leave Toronto is ridiculous. There were offer sheets presented and it was reported he didn’t sign in fear of the Leafs not matching. Your comment comes across as something out of the original poster.
    Why else would he want a 5-year deal if it isn't to control where he plays once he hits UFA status? And considering the insane media attention Toronto gets, I can't blame him for wanting the option of leaving.

    The offer sheets that were presented to him were not for 5-years, which is why he turned them down. It isn't necessarily that he wants to leave Toronto...he just wants to be a UFA in 5 years, regardless of team.
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    Can't he sign a 3yr deal, Sign the QO, then hit free agency after 4yrs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Can't he sign a 3yr deal, Sign the QO, then hit free agency after 4yrs?
    Yes. However to sign a 3yr deal he would want it back loaded so he can do that for the 4th yr at 13M+, but Dubas wouldn't want to give him the easy out there, so I would assume he's offering something like a 10M/9.5M/9M setup on a 3yr deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    best. thread. ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    Yes. However to sign a 3yr deal he would want it back loaded so he can do that for the 4th yr at 13M+, but Dubas wouldn't want to give him the easy out there, so I would assume he's offering something like a 10M/9.5M/9M setup on a 3yr deal.
    If he wanted out of Toronto, demanding a trade, or going this route for Marner would be the way to go. For those arguing he just wants out of Toronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    If he wanted out of Toronto, demanding a trade, or going this route for Marner would be the way to go. For those arguing he just wants out of Toronto.
    I don't necessarily think he wants out of Toronto...I just think he wants to control where he goes (if anywhere) as soon as possible, like Matthews and Aho got with their contracts.

    I feel many of these RFAs want to be UFAs as soon as possible so they have full leverage in their next contract. As a player, if you can get a 5-year deal now to bring you UFA status as a 26 year old, then you might be able to get two more contracts before you retire (7 years each, bringing you to 40 years old).

    On the other hand, if you sign an 8 year deal right now, you can only get one more contract at max value before retiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    I don't necessarily think he wants out of Toronto...I just think he wants to control where he goes (if anywhere) as soon as possible, like Matthews and Aho got with their contracts.

    I feel many of these RFAs want to be UFAs as soon as possible so they have full leverage in their next contract. As a player, if you can get a 5-year deal now to bring you UFA status as a 26 year old, then you might be able to get two more contracts before you retire (7 years each, bringing you to 40 years old).

    On the other hand, if you sign an 8 year deal right now, you can only get one more contract at max value before retiring.
    But if he wanted UFA, he'd go the 3yr deal to QO route.

    I think he just wants money, and the quickest, richest route to that is 5yr deal with TOR. Quickest route is a trade, meh-quick is 3yr-QO route, Richest route is 5yr-UFA route
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    best. thread. ever
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    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    LMAO... I think that it was more of a comment on the 300+ posts since you'r 'facts' ... than it was a compliment to you directly, who disappeared for the last 280+ comments in said thread.
    Pretty sure he's aware of that


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    Doesn't mean a whole lot, but doesn't mean nothing:
    https://twitter.com/reporterchris/st...10872851423233Chris Johnston‏Verified account @reporterchris
    With the usual caveat that nothing is done until it's done, it sounds like there's been some progress in contract talks between the #leafs and RFA Mitch Marner.
    Someone budged a little I think
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    Freidman said 3yr or a 6yr deal is the main focus. And the 6yr deal is below 11mill/yr
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