[Rumor] Marner is gone from TO

[lucafen4]

After seeing Hayes and his 54pts at 26 get 7.14. Mitch with 94pts at 22 is going to want 14.5m now.

[bondon]

After seeing Hayes and his 54pts at 26 get 7.14. Mitch with 94pts at 22 is going to want 14.5m now.

He doesn't care about comparables though right....lmao

[lucafen4]

He doesn't care about comparables though right....lmao

if I were Mitch... I'd have a clear double standard on using comparables

[Belexus75]

if I were Mitch... I'd have a clear double standard on using comparables

if you were mitch you would be sitting till December like Willy did but this time i dont think Dubas would cave. He will sign for around 10 for 5 years or 8 at around what Matthews got per year...

[butch]

islanders just hired marners fav coach ; Hillier

giddyup july 1

[ericdaoust]

It’s become an extremely difficult situation to read as a fan. Too much noise from media, agent and fans but no official statement from Mitchell himself. All Leafs fans can do is sit tight at let it play out. I don’t know what to believe anymore.

It's up to you whether or not you read everything and put any stock into it. My suggestion to you is in bold ^^^

[Axeman33]

islanders just hired marners fav coach ; Hillier

giddyup july 1

Teams can start talking to RFAs next week.

[rataylor22]

if you were mitch you would be sitting till December like Willy did but this time i dont think Dubas would cave. He will sign for around 10 for 5 years or 8 at around what Matthews got per year...

Dubas has already shown he’s willing to cave and willing to lose on multiple contract negotiations. The Marner situation is his own creation.

[havanablast21]

Dubas has already shown he’s willing to cave and willing to lose on multiple contract negotiations. The Marner situation is his own creation.

Lost Multiple contract negotiations?

[2014olympicgold]

Lost Multiple contract negotiations?

Ya, he's made like 3 major signings, how has he lost multiple signings. Tavares, Matthews, and Nylander. And JT took less, Matthews got market value it seems, and Nylander at 6.96 is going to look small if he gets back to his 2017-18 self.

[fungchen3]

I'm interested in seeing what happens with Marner--but I'm thinking he's not going to offer any type of discount--and will want at least 11 or 11.5 a pop from the Leafs, without going a full 8 years.

I think the Leafs are in a tough spot and should have locked up their kids before offering the world to Tavares.

That said, Tavares is a great player, and I don't blame the Leafs for going after him--but their own kids should have been more of a priority IMO.

[havanablast21]

Ya, he's made like 3 major signings, how has he lost multiple signings. Tavares, Matthews, and Nylander. And JT took less, Matthews got market value it seems, and Nylander at 6.96 is going to look small if he gets back to his 2017-18 self.

Thanks OG2014. I was having a hard time making sense of RA’s comment. Just RA being RA I guess.
Agreed btw. He’s done everything he said he’s do. This Marner contract could be the difference maker. I love Mitch, but not at the expense of the teams future. Matthews/JT are the central nervous system that will allow Marner and the other top 6 wingers to do what they do IMO. Both locked up for the next 5&6 years. We’ll see if Marner wants to be a part of it.

[SeaDawg]

I haven't looked closely at the numbers...but what amount can Toronto safely afford to pay Marner?

I agree that the best thing for any team to do is build some strength/depth down the middle, so having Matthews and Tavares signed long-term is the best thing for Toronto. I mean, it probably helps them more to have signed Tavares instead of matching Marner's supposed (rumored) contract demands.

That said, if Toronto can somehow find a way to keep Marner/Tavares together, and Nylander/Matthews together, they could potentially have the best top two lines in the NHL for years to come.

I just don't see Marner taking anything less than 10 million AAV. Can Toronto even afford that? I really don't know, but am curious. If they can, I think there is room for a contract to be signed between Marner and the Leafs. If the Leafs can only afford to pay Marner $8-$9 million AAV, then imo he is as good as gone.

[Axeman33]

Thanks OG2014. I was having a hard time making sense of RA’s comment. Just RA being RA I guess.
Agreed btw. He’s done everything he said he’s do. This Marner contract could be the difference maker. I love Mitch, but not at the expense of the teams future. Matthews/JT are the central nervous system that will allow Marner and the other top 6 wingers to do what they do IMO. Both locked up for the next 5&6 years. We’ll see if Marner wants to be a part of it.

To me, he IS the biggest piece of the teams future and he's not someone you lose to sacrifice the "teams future". You lose other pieces but Marner is arguably their best player who's just scratching the surface.

[SeaDawg]

ok, to answer my own question from above, I just looked closely (but quickly) at the numbers on capfriendly...someone correct me if I am wrong with any of the following...

- if Toronto trades Marleau, Kadri, and Zaitsev, and does not re-sign Gardiner, they will have $21 million in cap space
- at that point, they'd need to sign 12 more players (Marner, Kapanen, and Johnsson included).

Assuming Marner gets $10 million AAV, then they'd have around 12 million to sign 11 players (9 F and 2 D).

I guess that is possible, but seems very difficult and hard to imagine they can get that done.