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    Question Mackinnon + Elhers for Kucherov + O'Reilly

    Recently got offered a trade; My Kucherov + R. O'Reilly for his Mackinnon + Ehlers.

    My Team; Mathew Barzal, Max Domi Mon, Artemi Panarin, Micheal Ferland, Elias Lindholm, Nikita Kucherov, Shayne Gostisbehere, Matt Dumba, Jake Gardiner, Jacob Trouba, Mikko Rantanen, Elias Pettersson, Ryan O'Reilly, Brayden Schenn, Shea Weber IR.

    League details; 12 Team keeper H2H - Goals, Assists, +/- , PIM, SOG, PPP, SHP, BLK, HIT, FW

    This trade is appealing to me right now. I feel like having the Mackinnon + Rantanen combo could be lethal, but am i giving up too much? In my mind Mackinnon for Kucherov seems like a steal, especially with the way the lightning have looked so far this season. The part that troubles me is the O'Reilly/Ehlers side of things. Ehlers hasn't exactly gotten prime deployments in that stacked Jets lineup and O'Reilly has been a machine even on the Blues' second line. I will lose faceoff wins giving up O'Reilly but Mackinnon is no slouch in that category so i don't think the hit will be too bad.

    Need opinions please and thank you!

    Also... apologies for the fat fingered title, EHLERS****.
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    Default Re: Mackinnon + Elhers for Kucherov + O'Reilly

    It's close. I prefer mack over kuch but not by much and only if positions don't matter. If forward positions are in play I prefer kuch. If that's the case this is an easy no for me. Don't let the slow Tampa start scare you.

    I'd rather oreilly than Ehlers but I love Ehlers potential. I just don't see him getting the opportunity that potential requires anytime soon so oreilly this season for sure.

    I mean if he came to you then it's lateral enough that I'd ask what else he can sweeten the pot with. Tell him that you find mack and kuch pretty equal but you'd be taking a huge hit with oreilly vs Ehlers and see what he comes back with.
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    The slow start in Tampa is scaring me, that's truth.

    He came to me yes, but he feels I'm getting the cake because I'd be getting the Mack + Rant combo. Seriously doubt he'd entertain a counter offer, plus there really isnt anyone else on his team other than Huberdeau thats appealing to me. I tried to offer straight Kuch for Mack but Kuch's slow start ended that thought quick and he's really weak down the middle so needs a replacement C.
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    So if positions count ie: C, RW, LW then I'd hold kuch. He's likely more valuable thank mack as center is the easiest position to fill. Just take a deep breath and remember that this guy is all world talent. 10ish games doesn't change that the same way 10ish games doesn't make mack a 150 point player.
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    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

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    Defense:
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    Pretty Close. I prefer Mac. but I think the Kuch side Wins by a hair
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    Default Re: Mackinnon + Elhers for Kucherov + O'Reilly

    Kuch and O'reilly side wins imo . ROR will single handily win you FW's .

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    With your categories, I wouldn't take the trade
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