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    I don't get this move though. Smith is overpaid, especially considering his last season, sure. But he does bring a presence and he's been a good soldier for the Sens, and it's not like they don't have the cap space for him. On this team, is he really so bad to have around that it's worth the risk of losing him for nothing to save $1mil? In favor of playing a bunch of prospects that may not even be ready? If this team winds up messing up their prospects' development with this stunt they'll be one of the worst teams in history. They will lose Stone and Duchene and have a bunch of broken prospects to show for it. Something like a 20% chance at Lafreniere or whoever is not worth the cost to the franchise.
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    Ummm....Z.Smith cleared waives and is on their AHL. They don't save any payroll really...he's still getting his full salary....But I guess you could argue they wanted someone to claim him, but they couldn't get a deal done via trade at all over the last yr without retaining salary, who would claim him for his full salary?

    They save cap space, and put 1mill on their cap for a player that isn't there, so that's a bonus for a team hitting the floor. But they save no actual dollars with this move if I'm thinking the right thing.

    I think this is a "you can't play a vet if he's on the AHL squad".
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    It's also not unheard of to see guys waived/clear and then not get demoted. Or they get demoted and called up quickly. It can be an attempt to boost motivation or a scare tactic. It could also be a tool for roster flexibility. Who knows with this team...


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    From cap friendly:

    These are the players the Ottawa Senators protected 15 months ago in the Vegas Expansion Draft, June 2017

    Hoffman -Traded
    Brassard -Traded
    Stone -UFA in July
    Turris -Traded
    Smith -Waived earlier today
    Pageau
    Dzingel -UFA in July

    Phaneuf -Traded
    Karlsson -Traded
    Ceci

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    Love the quote

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    Matt Duchene on Zack Smith being placed on waivers "I'll be honest, it's a kick in the balls for us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfcollins View Post
    These are the players the Ottawa Senators protected 15 months ago in the Vegas Expansion Draft, June 2017
    The expansion draft seemed to have a worse effect on Ottawa than on a lot of other teams. Losing Methot may or may not have been part of the problem last season, it's hard to say, but it was definitely the beginning of the end of that era of the Sens. Certainly it couldn't have looked good losing him only to see him traded for a second and a middling goalie prospect -- how hard could Dorion really have tried to work out a deal with McPhee at that price? Meanwhile his chats with Ryan and Phaneuf went over like lead balloons and probably made things worse in the locker room. They really need to let Duchene, Anderson and Stone go. It's not fair to them at this point. They need a blank slate badly, preferably one without Melnyk, Dorion, and Boucher..
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    Interesting. Mark Letestu just got released from his PTO. I could see Ottawa reaching out to fill the hole. Much cheaper option who a better center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Interesting. Mark Letestu just got released from his PTO. I could see Ottawa reaching out to fill the hole. Much cheaper option who a better center.
    While this is true, the Senators would then be paying Zack Smith AND Mark Letestu which is not cheaper at all.

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    Just because Smith has cleared waivers does not mean they HAVE to send him down. he can still start the season with the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    While this is true, the Senators would then be paying Zack Smith AND Mark Letestu which is not cheaper at all.
    Well they will need to pay someone to fill that spot. They can probably get Letestu for league minimum.
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    This move has alienated both the team and the fans further. Should do wonders for attendance and players wanted to waiver their NTC/NMC to come to Ottawa! Well done Melnyk, well done.
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    I guess this will help expedite Melnyk's moving the team. His plan is coming into fruition.

    This from December.

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    Bahahahaha... what a joke of a franchise. And this coming from a long suffering Leaf fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luffy D Monkey View Post
    Are we watching Moneyball or Major League?

    Ottawa making the decision not to keep this year's 1st round pick has to be one of the most disastrous management decisions in the modern era of any sports.
    The Senators team that made the Conference Finals are the Indians from that movie. While the Inidans inthe movie franchise didn't move, the Senators aren't through trying.

    More importantly, I see no chance that having a life size mockup of Melnyk where the team strips off pieces of clothing will help. At all.
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    When are Spezza Heatley and Alfredsson coming back?? Wade Redden anyone??
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