J.T. Miller or Ryan Johansen for a keepers league?

[faboudreault]

Hey guys
Looking for the common Dobber's community wisdom here.
I need to submit my top 10 keepers list soon and I'm struggling with my last spot. I own both JT Miller and Ryan Johansen and I don't know who to keep. Miller in Tampa seems to have higher upside but it all depends who he's playing with. RJ is due for a rebound year after a couple of lousy ones. Wouldn't you agree?

So for a keepers league, who's the best keeper?

EDIT: It's a point-only league with F, D and G positions only. Weekly alignment, not H2H. Nine teams total, we keep 10 players and draft 10 each year.

Cheers

[RizzeeDizzee]

RyJo probably, in hopes of a rebound plus even if he does poorly he still has enough name value that you can deal him for a decent return. Miller is intriguing, but who's to say if the 22 games he played with Tampa were representative of what he can do for them over the long haul.

[ericdaoust]

Need more info. What are your league settings? Position eligibility could be the deciding factor.

[Eskimo Brother]

Need more info. What are your league settings? Position eligibility could be the deciding factor.

Same with if it's points-only or multicat. Roto or H2H, etc.

Both players have their uses.

[faboudreault]

Good point guys. I just edited the initial post.
It's a point-only league with F, D and G positions only. Weekly alignment, not H2H. Nine teams total, we keep 10 players and draft 10 each year.

[ericdaoust]

Miller for me. I think Johansen's upside is limited in Nashville.

[HonkyTonkMan]

Both are questionable yet intriguing. I have owned both in the past. I'd go Miller as no one in Nashville seems to put up a ton of points and Miller is on a stacked Tampa team probably with stammer and kuch.

[StamkosFan]

I would bank on Miller pushing 30 goals this year; he's been a remarkably consistent player and is getting top minutes on one of the league's best teams. If Stamkos and Kucherov made Namestnikov valuable, imagine what they can do with a legitimate top-six forward.

I owned RyJo last year in one of my leagues and it was quite frustrating to say the least. It was another underwhelming year, and as far as I can tell, a 20 goal season would be reaching his ceiling. Rationale? He doesn't put a whole lot of anything on net in Nashville.

[Eskimo Brother]

In this case I would say make the choice based on what fits best with your other keepers. RyJo has the higher floor, but Miller probably has the higher ceiling.

[BranDOOM]

Miller for me.

[FantasyKing]

I prefer Miller in this one

[lucafen4]

Miller as well... but I wonder what the other options on your roster might be that have been discounted?

[ekc8946]

Miller.....especially if youre in a salary ca league.

[random-d]

I'll take Johansen here. He's the uncontested #1 center in Nashville, he'll get all the favorable o-zone deployments, he's just coming up on his 27th birthday while Nashville looks to be primed to contend, and he had a really strong playoffs. I'll take the guaranteed 1st line guy, lower floor, and a possible rebound to top form. and bet on a talented and motivated Nashville team bumping his production. Miller is a fine option but there's more risk there given the wealth of options TB has on the wing.

[lucafen4]

I would bank on Miller pushing 30 goals this year; he's been a remarkably consistent player and is getting top minutes on one of the league's best teams. If Stamkos and Kucherov made Namestnikov valuable, imagine what they can do with a legitimate top-six forward.

I owned RyJo last year in one of my leagues and it was quite frustrating to say the least. It was another underwhelming year, and as far as I can tell, a 20 goal season would be reaching his ceiling. Rationale? He doesn't put a whole lot of anything on net in Nashville.

For Miller to hit 30 goals, one of two things have to happen - increase his SOG from his last seasons career high of 143 to 186... OR bump his shooting % from 16.1 to over 20%.