[Re-signed] Jacob Trouba

[Zorro]

The problem I see isn't that Trouba was asking $7mill which is high compared to what he deserves but they should be asking high. It is that the Jets offer were offering what was fair value to an average D 5 years ago as opposed to be close to the current going rate for a player with his abilities and upside. If they were offering a more realistic number like $5.25-5.5 then its likely the team and player could've figured out a fair long term deal instead of getting a little bridge and having to pay up big time like Montreal did with Subban. I realize that Trouba and Subban aren't necessarily close comparable but its the principal that applies.

Besides, the sooner a player a team trusts is signed long term to the going rate the soon it looks like a bargain as the cap continues to rise. Put it off year after year and as the cap rises and the player keeps improving the contract demands will continue to rise proportionately.

I actually personally don't care much but at first glance it looks like a wasted opportunity to me.

The team offered $4 million for the arbitration case, that wasn't a longterm offer..

Just curious, what makes J.Trouba worth $7 million plus?? I don't feel he is worth more then Dumba and he just got $6 million x 5 years.. John Carlson just signed for $8 million, what makes Trouba worth 1 million less??

I am honestly just curious here, maybe he is.. I just don't see it. I feel Trouba hasn't prived much to me besides that he has future potential.. Maybe!!

[EvanScott3]

Arbitrator picking a one deal over the other will never work

jets are lucky to get this deal st 5.5

[EvanScott3]

The team offered $4 million for the arbitration case, that wasn't a longterm offer..

Just curious, what makes J.Trouba worth $7 million plus?? I don't feel he is worth more then Dumba and he just got $6 million x 5 years.. John Carlson just signed for $8 million, what makes Trouba worth 1 million less??

I am honestly just curious here, maybe he is.. I just don't see it. I feel Trouba hasn't prived much to me besides that he has future potential.. Maybe!!

You must be one of those Jets fans that doesn’t see the value trouba brings

4m/year was a hugely insulting offer

[The Comish]

The team offered $4 million for the arbitration case, that wasn't a longterm offer..

Just curious, what makes J.Trouba worth $7 million plus?? I don't feel he is worth more then Dumba and he just got $6 million x 5 years.. John Carlson just signed for $8 million, what makes Trouba worth 1 million less??

I am honestly just curious here, maybe he is.. I just don't see it. I feel Trouba hasn't prived much to me besides that he has future potential.. Maybe!!

All Trouba needs is an extended opportunity on PP1 to see his points rise to elite level, which many are convinced is exactly what would happen. To some extent, the team controls opportunity, so there is potential for the Trouba camp to resent his usage and think that the team is holding him back from being all that he can be...and earning a bigger pay day.

[EvanScott3]

All Trouba needs is an extended opportunity on PP1 to see his points rise to elite level, which many are convinced is exactly what would happen. To some extent, the team controls opportunity, so there is potential for the Trouba camp to resent his usage and think that the team is holding him back from being all that he can be...and earning a bigger pay day.

Very good point made. Troubs is a top pairing D

[Daydream Nation]

All Trouba needs is an extended opportunity on PP1 to see his points rise to elite level, which many are convinced is exactly what would happen. To some extent, the team controls opportunity, so there is potential for the Trouba camp to resent his usage and think that the team is holding him back from being all that he can be...and earning a bigger pay day.

Bingo. This has been my perception for a while. Trouba's usage and his pecking order behind Buff is what's kept his stats down. Trouba is clearly a #1, 25+ minutes a night dman in my mind. It has been my thought that Trouba is going to just bide his time until unrestricted free agency.

[EvanScott3]

Bingo. This has been my perception for a while. Trouba's usage and his pecking order behind Buff is what's kept his stats down. Trouba is clearly a #1, 25+ minutes a night dman in my mind. It has been my thought that Trouba is going to just bide his time until unrestricted free agency.

Yep. The Jets will regret this move.

[hockeymanG23]

The team offered $4 million for the arbitration case, that wasn't a longterm offer..

Just curious, what makes J.Trouba worth $7 million plus?? I don't feel he is worth more then Dumba and he just got $6 million x 5 years.. John Carlson just signed for $8 million, what makes Trouba worth 1 million less??

I am honestly just curious here, maybe he is.. I just don't see it. I feel Trouba hasn't prived much to me besides that he has future potential.. Maybe!!

I haven't suggested that he is worth $7mill, what I'm saying is that the Jets offer at $4mill is more out to lunch than the Trouba camp. Really if they aren't willing to pay and utilize him to his fullest then they may as well trade him to a team that will and land a solid return at the same time because if they did utilize him in that way he would certainly be in the same ballpark as Dumba. They way things have been handled so far they are going to lose him for nothing if he isn't traded.

Even though those numbers are just for a one/two year arbitration case wouldn't it also make sense that those numbers are reflective of prior negotiations?

[rataylor22]

Trouba not worth more than Dumba?

Trouba worth more than $1 mil less than Carlson?

Hypergalaxy brain

[Daydream Nation]

With the need that so many teams have for a top pairing dman, does anyone question that Trouba would get 7+ million on the open market? Why take a long term contract for 6 or 6.5 M from a team you are not crazy about when you can bet on yourself and get that contract in a couple seasons? And Carlson is not a great comp since he could have gotten more if he wanted. He could have gotten 8.5 or 9 from Vegas or someone else if he wanted. Hell, if a 29-year old glorified PP specialist in JVR can get 7 mil per, what would a 26-year old #1 dman get?

[Zorro]

I've never said Trouba is not a top pairing defenseman.. I have watched every single Jets game since they have been back aswell as being a season ticket holder so I think I have a good grasp at what I think Trouba is worth.. I just don't think he should be getting over $6.5 a year.. Morrisey is just as good and just as valuable as Trouba.. So the Jets need to be careful and can't just offer up $7 million plus deals to everyone..

I also believe Byfuglien makes too much, but that's besides the point..

Trouba isn't a saint in all this either.. He's already held out once and then eventually signed for what he was worth and what the Jets were offering all along.. Trouba also had some off ice issues which I refuse to talk about on here.. Injuries too have made it hard for Trouba.. Trouba has never been a big point producer at any stage of his career, so not sure what makes most think he will just explode with being given PP1 duties.. Woukd he get more points? YES. But would he "explode"? I'm not sure.

So is $7 million too much?? Yes I believe it is..

[Zorro]

You must be one of those Jets fans that doesn’t see the value trouba brings

4m/year was a hugely insulting offer

4 million wasn't there offer to Trouba, it was the number they gave to the arbitrator.. It was a smart move by the Jets actually.. If they would have offered 6 million to the abitrator then the # definitely wouldn't have been 5.5 million..

Any bridges that have been burnt have been burnt by Trouba's agent.. Originally Trouba wanted to leave because of his girlfriend and her schooling/future job.. Now all of a sudden he wants to stay and sign long term.. Things just aren't adding up..

Trouba and Morrisey are a awesome 1st pairing.. Do they deserve $6.5?? Yes.. Over $7 million, I sure hope not.. I know the value Trouba brings.. Not $7 million value..

[Zorro]

I don't know, maybe I just want the Jets to be able to keep all their core together and try not to overpay too too much..

Ofcourse I think Trouba would go for $7-8 million if he was a UFA.. Look at Toronto's backend, they should be offering the Jets the moon for Trouba..

I guess I just feel like Trouba/Overheart have fooled around with the organization quite a bit already.. Demanding trades, holding out, off ice issues, etc..

I honestly think though this all ends with a trade and then I guess we will really see Trouba's true potential!!

[FantasyKing]

he gone after this season

[The Comish]

I don't know, maybe I just want the Jets to be able to keep all their core together and try not to overpay too too much

I think this is it in a nutshell. For the most part, the Jets have done well in drafting and trading. I know Chevy has been criticized for being "too patient", but I'd much rather have someone too patient than someone who makes rash decisions and loses more than he wins. Obviously, there is a balance, but I think the Jets have done a great job getting to this point. The next step will be the most difficult.