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    Have a guy whos hard up for mackinnon in a straight points league with +.5 for PP

    If I get Taylor Hall and Vladimir Tarasenko is that a good deal for me?

    Or should I keep Mackinnon. I have room to drop other players who never counted for me so that is not a worry.

    Just looking for some other thoughts on this. My team is as follows NOT the one in the signature.




    23. Nathan MacKinnon
    Col


    39 58 12 0 20 1 0 0 74 115.0

    3. Brad Marchand
    Bos


    34 51 8 1 15 3 0 0 68 104.5

    6. David Pastrnak
    Bos


    35 45 13 0 13 0 0 0 82 93.0

    28. Josh Bailey
    NYI


    18 53 5 0 26 0 0 0 76 86.5

    25. Tuukka Rask
    Bos

    goaltender
    0 2 0 0 1 0 34 3 54 79.5

    17. Teuvo Teravainen
    Car


    23 41 5 0 15 0 0 0 82 74.0

    4. P.K Subban
    Nsh

    defenseman
    16 43 5 0 20 1 0 0 82 73.5

    1. Mike Hoffman
    Ott


    22 34 8 0 13 0 0 0 82 66.5

    18. Daniel Sedin
    Van


    23 32 9 0 14 0 0 0 81 66.5

    16. Brendan Gallagher
    Mon


    31 23 8 1 9 0 0 0 82 64.5

    8. Mika Zibanejad
    NYR


    27 20 14 0 7 1 0 0 72 59.5

    19. Henrik Sedin
    Van


    3 47 0 0 17 0 0 0 82 58.5

    9. Alexander Debrincat
    Chi


    28 24 6 0 6 0 0 0 82 58.0

    26. Anthony Mantha
    Det


    24 24 9 0 3 0 0 0 80 54.0

    7. Jeff Skinner
    Car


    24 25 4 0 5 0 0 0 82 53.5

    27. Nick Leddy
    NYI

    defenseman
    10 32 4 0 10 0 0 0 80 49.0

    13. Derick Brassard
    Pit


    21 25 5 0 1 0 0 0 72 49.0

    2. Justin Faulk
    Car

    defenseman
    8 23 3 0 16 0 0 0 76 40.5

    22. Sami Vatanen
    NJ

    defenseman
    4 28 1 0 12 1 0 0 72 40.5

    11. Artem Anisimov
    Chi


    20 11 11 1 1 0 0 0 72 39.0

    5. Richard Panik
    Ari


    14 21 4 0 2 0 0 0 72 38.0

    20. Cory Schneider
    NJ

    goaltender
    0 0 0 0 0 0 17 1 40 37.0

    24. Kevin Shattenkirk
    NYR

    defenseman
    5 18 2 0 10 0 0 0 46 29.0

    15. Ron Hainsey
    Tor

    defenseman
    4 19 1 0 0 2 0 0 80 27.5

    10. Scott Darling
    Car

    goaltender
    0 0 0 0 0 0 13 0 43 26.0

    21. Anthony Duclair
    Chi


    11 12 3 0 0 0 0 0 56 24.5

    12. Jan Rutta
    Chi

    defenseman
    6 14 2 0 2 1 0 0 57 24.0

    14. Brad Hunt
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    Frowards: Nathan MacKinnon, Aleksander Barkov, Vladimir Tarasenko, Brayden Point, Viktor Arvidsson, Matt Duchene, Mike Hoffman, Nico Hischier, Anthony Mantha, Alex Killorn, Jonathan Drouin, Bo Horvat, Chris Kreider, Richard Panik ,

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    I generally prefer the best player in a deal, but Hall and Tarasenko are both high end talent. In a vacuum, I would consider that deal.
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    BPA in either deal is MacKinnon. 1-1.. no I would not do it. I would need another really nice piece added. Mack just opened up last year, is that his ceiling? (I'm thinking no)
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    I Am a big fan of macky and normally would say no but if you can get hall and tarasanko I mean I feel like you have to say yes to that. Ofcourse like you said dropping someone that has basically no value
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    whoops, I read that wrong, I thought this said Hall or Tank... missed the AND. that's a hard one to pass up, two high end wingers - esp. Hall at LW
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    As a Mac owner I would take that in a heartbeat

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    I got MacKinnon as the 2nd best points only forward but Tarasenko + Hall is hard to pass up. If there were less # of keepers I would say a hard no, but with 22 keepers I would make the deal. I'd shop Hall in the meantime in case last season was a huge outlier but overall it's one that could be very beneficial.

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    Can you throw bailey in and get another top end piece?

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    Further to that give us an idea of his other top end players. I think mack can challenge for the scoring title for a lot of years to come. I need a really strong return and I think you're almost there.
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    That's a deal you have to take, Colorado might be a train wreck again next year. Not that I think that MacKinnon would come down much either way, but both Hall and Tarasenkshow could out produce him. I'd do it for sure
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    If this is a "keep all" league, then it's essentially Mackinnon + [Sedin, your drop] for Hall + Tank. You'd be crazy not to accept that, in my opinion.

    If this is a limited keeper, then it depends on what your best drop would be before we could say how good this deal looks.

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    As long as the player you are dropping is a zero type of player (or little value) I am making this deal and running.
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    Well, you've got a Sedin to drop, so that makes the drop easy.

    I'm taking that deal, but if you split forwards out into centers & wings, you need to take it ASAP, as opposed to simply take it soon,
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    This looks like a good deal for you. I generally trust the upside and value of all three guys in the deal, but MacKinnon is the guy with the most value right now. These things swing back and forth year to year, so I'd be more than happy to get Tank and Hall for him - looks an excellent use of MacKinnons massive value right now. Seems like selling super high on MacK and buying low on Tank, while also getting Hall at a very high value. Can't see much downside considering your settings.

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