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    Was offered the following trade, what do people think of this move?

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    I would rather the Keller/Prov side.
    Prov and Risto are pretty even, 1.11 to 1.7 doesn't make a huge difference, and I would heavily rather Keller over Wennberg. Don't think Hart makes up that difference. Not a bad offer, but still a pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    I would rather the Keller/Prov side.
    Prov and Risto are pretty even, 1.11 to 1.7 doesn't make a huge difference, and I would heavily rather Keller over Wennberg. Don't think Hart makes up that difference. Not a bad offer, but still a pass.
    almost identical to what i was going to say, other than i see Prov as a step up on Risto.
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    Keep the Keller side. I prefer provorov to risto and Keller is worth much more than that. In my cap league at the deadline I traded Keller for Hall to give you an example of his value.

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    Not a bad offer. If Hart turns out to be anything close to what people expect, this offer is a win if accepted. Personally, I wouldn't want to take that gamble when looking at the downgrade from Keller to Wennberg and the upgrade of 4 picks in the 1st round.
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    As being the other person in the trade (we agreed to seek Dobber assistance lol) to make this equal a fair move, would any of the players below make the trade for equal in everyone's eyes? Leaving everything as is but swapping Wennberg for someone below:


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    As mentioned above by Axeman I think Hart has a good chance to make a name for himself, and in our league goalies are very valuable so giving up someone like Hart could be a stinger down the road. Possible gamble, but you got to give to get. 7th overall in my opinion is a decent jump from 11 as the top 10 are really where it tappers off. He also has the 12th, which I'd be willing to accept. I know its 1 spot down but if it titled the scales a bit I'd do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa View Post
    As being the other person in the trade (we agreed to seek Dobber assistance lol) to make this equal a fair move, would any of the players below make the trade for equal in everyone's eyes? Leaving everything as is but swapping Wennberg for someone below:


    Schwartz
    Evander Kane
    Buchnevich
    Ducehene
    Domi
    Zacha


    As mentioned above by Axeman I think Hart has a good chance to make a name for himself, and in our league goalies are very valuable so giving up someone like Hart could be a stinger down the road. Possible gamble, but you got to give to get. 7th overall in my opinion is a decent jump from 11 as the top 10 are really where it tappers off. He also has the 12th, which I'd be willing to accept. I know its 1 spot down but if it titled the scales a bit I'd do it
    this just turned awkward ..seems like we are making teh trade in essence..
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    Haha, yeah it is a bit strange lol. We have been going back and forth and agreed to seek assistance, why not make it a group effort lol!
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    if i was him i wouldnt do it. i would be adding one of these players including wennberg.

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    I could do that; or even remove the 11th overall from his side maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa View Post
    I could do that; or even remove the 11th overall from his side maybe?
    If I were the other side, I'd be countering with both suggestions
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    I would step away from this completely if it were offered to me.

    Keller and Provorov are among the most valuable young players to own in fantasy hockey for their respective positions. I would only accept proven stars that play on teams good for fantasy purposes - I would not want to part with potential top-15 players in the NHL for potentially middling players, that is my opinion.

    Leland Irving is one example of why it's not prudent to put too much stock into a player that has not proven themselves in professional hockey. Carter Hart may very well turn into a very good NHL goalie but he isn't yet and his value should reflect that. Projecting prospect goalie performances is one of the trickiest tasks in fantasy hockey.

    My advice would be to hang onto your potential stars and watch their value increase to the point where you will be saying Wennwho?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa View Post
    Haha, yeah it is a bit strange lol. We have been going back and forth and agreed to seek assistance, why not make it a group effort lol!
    Dat feel when you want the quality Dobber community advice but a bunch of your league is on here too Haha, all good though. We both use these forums a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    If I were the other side, I'd be countering with both suggestions
    this for me too. i really like what Hart could be, but he so far away from being relevant just yet, its tough to place any tradable value in him in this valuation. Keller and Prov are studs, Risto is no joke either but i don't like the situation with Dahlin movin in. Wennberg,,meh i dunno.

    i don't know if id be too interested in any of teh names listed either. i mean they're good players but no Kellers...
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