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    I think the following are big buyers at the deadline:
    Leafs with 3.7 mil of capspace - (will have to do some moving around to fit Max)
    Lightning with 6 mil
    Nashville with 9.7 mil
    CBJ: 15 mil
    Winnipeg with 18.6

    I'm thinking Winnipeg or CBJ. Nashville could also lure him with a big enough salary, and they don't have the offensive firepower of other playoff teams like Toronto or Tampa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawneePanthers View Post
    I think the following are big buyers at the deadline:
    Leafs with 3.7 mil of capspace - (will have to do some moving around to fit Max)
    Lightning with 6 mil
    Nashville with 9.7 mil
    CBJ: 15 mil
    Winnipeg with 18.6

    I'm thinking Winnipeg or CBJ. Nashville could also lure him with a big enough salary, and they don't have the offensive firepower of other playoff teams like Toronto or Tampa.

    Does this include when Scheifele comes back? Either way, that is a tonne of cap room.
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    Would Patches not be a good fit with Pitt? Come a lot cheaper than E.Kane
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Does this include when Scheifele comes back? Either way, that is a tonne of cap room.
    Scheifle is just on IR - that does not impact cap space. It’s only when a team puts a player on long term IR (ie that player will not play for a very long time if ever again) that any cap action takes place. Like what Blackhawks did with Hossa this year.
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    No doubt Winnipeg will make moves (minor or major) - only question is: is Max Pac worth it? I would say no- they won't target Kane either- even though he's been there before. I don't think GM will want to bring him back. WJets will likely target a cheap veteran like Vanek or maybe Sedins. That kind of experience and leadership are better for a plyaoff run than potneital drama in locker room with Kane. Team cohesiveness underrated in fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweetdrivr View Post
    Scheifle is just on IR - that does not impact cap space. It’s only when a team puts a player on long term IR (ie that player will not play for a very long time if ever again) that any cap action takes place. Like what Blackhawks did with Hossa this year.
    For anyone who thinks they can Retro activate him to LTIR (he makes the criteria of 24days or 10games missed).

    Cap hit: 69.4mill
    Cap space: 75mill
    Cap space: 5.6mill
    Scheifele Cap hit: 6.125mill
    “Quick way to learn New Cap Limit” = (LTIR Players Cap Hit – Cap space) + Upper Limit
    X = (6.125-5.6mill)+75mill
    X=75.525mill

    If they LTIR Schiefele they get a whopping 0.525mill extra to their cap. Then there’s a whole thing about when Schief comes back he actually counts towards the end cap hit, so the new player + Scheif would make everything off, and it’s too early for me to get fully into it


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    I figured a way to explain it. Once Scheif comes back, the "Upper Limit" of the cap goes back to 75mill. So, teams who exploit this LTIR to gain more cap room put players on LTIR for the rest of the season. So when the player comes back, it's playoffs and caps don't matter. AKA P.Kane.
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    Nicely done. Thank you!
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    There is a rumor of a Pacioretty vs. McDonaugh trade.

    If that's the case, Bergevin should be fire right away.

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    Yeah not sure I like that idea. Any source for this rumor?
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    Is it rumor of just speculation? Lots of speculation is posted as rumors around the web these days...


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    Quote Originally Posted by JHouly View Post
    There is a rumor of a Pacioretty vs. McDonaugh trade.

    If that's the case, Bergevin should be fire right away.

    This team needs to rebuild. No good prospects...
    Not sure how that makes any sense for the Rangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHouly View Post
    There is a rumor of a Pacioretty vs. McDonaugh trade.

    If that's the case, Bergevin should be fire right away.

    This team needs to rebuild. No good prospects...
    As a Leaf fan I felt this pain for a loooong time. As I've said b4 Bergeron shouldn't be making trades. If they want to rebuild he shouldn't have any part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    Is it rumor of just speculation? Lots of speculation is posted as rumors around the web these days...
    I know Eklund originally posted this rumour back in November. Recently it's been speculation by Martin McGuire of 96.9 FM CKOI. But no insider knowledge, he's just speculating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfcollins View Post
    I know Eklund originally posted this rumour back in November. Recently it's been speculation by Martin McGuire of 96.9 FM CKOI. But no insider knowledge, he's just speculating.
    Thanks for clarifying. I felt it made no sense for either team so I figured it was pure speculation.


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    I don't know if it's a rumor or speculation but it's been talked a lot on Montreal radio stations lately.
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