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    Assume points only. Who is your top 10 going forward?

    Here's my list:

    Tier 1 Proven 60+ point D

    Erik Karlsson
    Brent Burns

    Tier 2 Could reach 60+ or have in the past

    Victor Hedman
    PK Subban
    Kris Letang
    Roman Josi
    Duncan Keith

    Tier 3 50+ point D with upside

    Kevin Shattenkirk
    Dustin Byfuglien
    John Klingberg
    12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.

    F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,, J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov,
    D: Q. Hughes,
    G:Bobrovsky

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    I could be biased but OEL has to be on this list somewhere.
    H2H - Keep 3 players + 1 D - 12 teams - 2 C, 2 RW, 2 LW, 4 D, 2 G +bench.

    S - G, A, P, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG
    G - W, GAA, SV%, SO

    C - McDavid,Scheifele,
    RW -
    LW -
    D - Reilly
    G -

    H2H - Keep 4 players + 1 D - 12 - 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LW, 4 D, 2 G +bench.

    S - G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW, HITS, BLKS
    G- W, SV%, GAA, SO
    C- Seguin
    RW-Kane,Marner
    LW-
    D- Hedman
    G- Vasilevskiey


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    Tier 1
    Burns
    Karlsson

    Tier 2
    Letang
    Hedman

    Tier 3
    Josi
    Subban
    Klingberg

    Tier 4
    Keith
    Byuglien
    OEL
    Doughty
    Hamilton
    Giordano
    Barrie
    Carlson
    Weber

    I know I'm over 10, but there are so many so close to each other that it almost comes down to a preference in tier 4
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    The just below tier 3 with a long term keeper mindset for pts only could arguably also include Ghost, Werenski, Krug, and Faulk,
    Weekly H2H 4games/week. 14 Teams,21 Player roster+ 3 protected prospects
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    G+A = 1pt, Dman G+A = 1.5pt, PPG =1pt, PPA = 0.5pt, SHG = 1pt, SHA = 0.5pt, ShootoutG = 0.25pt, GWG = 1pt, Hatty = 3pt, DMan Hatty = 5pt, +/- (For D only) = +/- 0.5pt, W = 2pt, L = -1pt, OTL = 1pt, ShootoutL = 0.5pt, SO = 1pt, S = 0.1pt, GA = -0.5pt, Goalie Goal = 5pt

    Each week play: 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 D, 2 G
    C: Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf, Zibanejad
    LW: Schwartz, Kase, Debrusk, Dzingel
    RW: Ehlers, Lindholm, Zuccarrello, Tuch
    D: Letang, Burns, Krug, Edler
    G: Vasilevskiy, Fleury, Saros, Domingue
    Prospects: Sorokin, Kaprizov, Hart

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickchau2000 View Post
    The just below tier 3 with a long term keeper mindset for pts only could arguably also include Ghost, Werenski, Krug, and Faulk,
    I would add Provorov and Trouba to that list.

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    Yup and Ristolanin
    12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.

    F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,, J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov,
    D: Q. Hughes,
    G:Bobrovsky

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    Can there be two Tier 2 guys from one team? I realize Josi and Subban are incredibly talented but I wonder if both fall back to the pack or even get passed by a couple Tier 4 guys. Is this point over-stated?

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    Weber and Josi both two tier two guys over the last 2-3 years. Same team.

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    Schultz and Letang although health issues have happened both could of been 50+ points this year.
    12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.

    F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,, J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov,
    D: Q. Hughes,
    G:Bobrovsky

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    If your league has IR or allows for injured players to be subbed for, I think Letang need to be in Tier 1, even if it's points only but especially if it's any sort of multi-cat.

    Dating back to 2011-12, Letang has produced at a rate of 0.904 points per game rate. So let's say he only manages to give you 60 games in a season - you're still looking at 54 points in those games. And assuming you can plug in a 35 point type of defenseman for him such that the replacement plays in 16 of the 22 games that Letang missed - voila, there's 7 more points, for a total of 61. While I realize Letang could play fewer than 60 games, but he also could play more, as he did in each of the two previous full seasons.
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    I agree with you Rizzee
    12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.

    F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,, J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov,
    D: Q. Hughes,
    G:Bobrovsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Tier 1
    Burns
    Karlsson

    Tier 2
    Letang
    Hedman

    Tier 3
    Josi
    Subban
    Klingberg

    Tier 4
    Keith
    Byuglien
    OEL
    Doughty
    Hamilton
    Giordano
    Barrie
    Carlson
    Weber

    I know I'm over 10, but there are so many so close to each other that it almost comes down to a preference in tier 4
    Damn... even on a list expanded from 10 to 16, still no love for Krug who is 7th in points among d men this year.

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    Do we think Werenski takes a step forward or a step back as a Sophomore?

    Doesn't hurt that his Shooting % and STP rate are both reasonably sustainable for a PP1 dman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Tier 1
    Burns
    Karlsson

    Tier 2
    Letang
    Hedman

    Tier 3
    Josi
    Subban
    Klingberg

    Tier 4
    Keith
    Byuglien
    OEL
    Doughty
    Hamilton
    Giordano
    Barrie
    Carlson
    Weber

    I know I'm over 10, but there are so many so close to each other that it almost comes down to a preference in tier 4
    Shattenkirk and Krug should land on that list....Doughty and Gio would be below imo
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    F: McDavid (12.5M), Kucherov (9.5M), Boldy (7M), Kyrou (8.13M), J. Norris (7.95M), Zegras (5.95M), Kuzmenko (5.5M), Reichel (0.925M), P. Kane (2.75M), Lundell (0.925M), Rasmussen (1.46M), Rossi (0.86M).

    D: Korchinski (0.925M), Byram (3.85M), Burns (5.28M).

    G: Kochetkov (2M), Shesterkin (5,670M).

    Bench: E. Karlsson (10M), Lucius (0.925M), Edvinsson (0.89M), Askarov (0.925M), Quinn (0.86M), Berggren (0.925M), Stankoven (0.81M), Knight (4.5M), Mitchkov (TBD), Athanasiou (4.25M), Samsonov (3.55M), Klingberg (4.15M).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickchau2000 View Post
    The just below tier 3 with a long term keeper mindset for pts only could arguably also include Ghost, Werenski, Krug, and Faulk,
    My sentiments as well and Id also bump Klinger down to that tier...

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    With the keeper format in mind, how long do you think Burns stays on top? he's 32 and I think that he's right on the top of his peek. Also, SJ in general does not have a young core team, declining across the team will start soon I would think (Pavelski 32, Thornton 37, Marleau 37, Vlasic 29). So knowing all that, how many years has he left with elite production? and is it still justified to take him in a draft as our main D/1st pick? Would it be ?safer? or better to take a lesser elite (today) but younger and with potential to grow his game type of D than taking a maybe declining Burns?? I think its important to think long term when drafting in a keeper. Burns might help you win the first 2-3 year but is it worth it? LOL I know it might sound stupid for some but it makes me wonder what you guys think about that factor?
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