Where will Fleury get traded?

[Jouko-Pouko]

How do you see this deal work out? Trouba?

Definitely not Trouba, the Jets would be crazy to even consider that. Everyone knows that Pens have no leverage and they need to get rid of Fleury quickly after the playoffs are over or they'll lose Murray for nothing. They might get someone like Armia, Dano, Petan or Lemieux from the Jets.

[Shift Disturber]

What about a Fleury vs Brodie type of deal?

Not a chance, I hope. After their Big 3 the quality of the Flames defense drops off severely. IMO, shoring up the #4-6 positions on the blueline is Calgary's biggest off season task, not goaltending. I realize that Elliot was a problem this year, but there are many goaltending options out there that do not involve moving an elite defenceman. On the other hand, there are not many solid, viable options for improving their defense. Moving Brodie for Fleury would make matters worse in Calgary.

[Mr. Guru]

I agree.

You don't need to give up quality like Brodie to shore up your goaltending issues.

You can find very good goalies for much cheaper.

[rataylor22]

Not sure how people think Fleury will net a player like Brodie or Trouba. The return will be significantly less.

[Shift Disturber]

Not sure how people think Fleury will net a player like Brodie or Trouba. The return will be significantly less.

Agree - I was assuming it would be some sort of package of Fleury+. I didn't want to get into a value discussion.

[FinnishFlash]

At this point I'm going to be surprised if he doesn't go to Calgary. The fit just seems too good.

As for price, I think it will be for a pick and B prospect.

[Mr. Guru]

Again, he has a NMC and a limited NTC. The limited NTC is a list of 18 teams HE CAN be traded to.

18 teams that DO NOT need a goalie.

1. Washington
2. Toronto
3. Chicago
4. Montreal
5. Tampa
6. Anaheim
7. San Jose
8. LA
9. Boston
10. Rangers
11. St. Louis
12. Columbus
13. Nashville
14. New Jersey
15. Minny
16. Edmonton
17. Dallas
18. Ottawa/Buffalo/Florida

Heres my list of teams you can trade me to = Fleury is a Penguin next year

If Fleury really wants to remain a Penguin, he has the power to do so.

[Shift Disturber]

At this point I'm going to be surprised if he doesn't go to Calgary. The fit just seems too good.

As for price, I think it will be for a pick and B prospect.

Flames don't have a second or third round pick this year so not sure how that would happen.

[donpaulo]

Yeah I don't see the logic in paying Pittsburgh for a goalie with such a contract. Despite his bona fides, there are other capable goalies out there that can be brought onboard for the price of a contract such as Mason and Elliott.

Then again maybe a team like the Islanders or the Sabres decide to make the move. Stranger things have happened.

I listed those 2 particular teams because Buffalo again seems to be in transition and with the GM connection with Pitt it stands to reason he would at least listen to whatever Rutherford is selling.

The Islanders I can't really make heads or tails of what they are doing with that franchise. The ice is horrific, ownership seems uncertain about the best move to make while they languish in a basketball barn with obstructed seating. The core of the team is pretty much in prime time too so they could use a proven guy like MAF. The Halak situation is vexing and Greiss just shot himself in the foot with his HRC-Hitler instagram likes.

[rataylor22]

Flames don't have a second or third round pick this year so not sure how that would happen.

2018 pick

[Bass56]

I know this doesn't mean much, but I have family members that live in Sorel, QC (Fleury's hometown) and they were told by people close to Fleury's family that a deal is already in place with Vegas. As soon as the season ends, he's basically a Knight after the paperwork is completed.

Take it with a grain of salt, but at least I heard the news directly from them.

[Dennis]

Sounds like rubbish.

Why would the Penguins need to make a deal with Vegas at all? Wouldn't Fleury just need to waive his NMC and then the Penguins could expose him and protect Murray? If they traded Fleury wouldn't they just lose someone else in the expansion draft?

[Bass56]

Sounds like rubbish.

Why would the Penguins need to make a deal with Vegas at all? Wouldn't Fleury just need to waive his NMC and then the Penguins could expose him and protect Murray? If they traded Fleury wouldn't they just lose someone else in the expansion draft?

From what I've heard, it's more like Vegas giving them something to avoid Pittsburgh moving him to another team prior to the expansion draft (i.e. Calgary, Buffalo, ...)

[JagrBomb]

Sounds like rubbish.

Why would the Penguins need to make a deal with Vegas at all? Wouldn't Fleury just need to waive his NMC and then the Penguins could expose him and protect Murray? If they traded Fleury wouldn't they just lose someone else in the expansion draft?

why would fleury waive his NTC to go from arguably the best team to the worst team in the league?

i believe he has a limited NTC, so if the Pens can't find a trade with a suitable team they will have to buy him out or Vegas will select Murray.

if they do buy him out (or trade him), then Vegas will likely take Dumoulin.

I have no idea which teams are on his no trade list, but if he's smart he'll pick teams that already have a #1, force the pens to buy him out and then sign a contract with CGY, getting the extra income on top of his current deal.

Or maybe he waives to go to a team that ensures he's the #1. all questionable at this point, only thing for certain is the Pens will not let Vegas take Murray.

[Dennis]

From what I've heard, it's more like Vegas giving them something to avoid Pittsburgh moving him to another team prior to the expansion draft (i.e. Calgary, Buffalo, ...)

Aah. Think Penn & Teller tickets will be enough? Calgary or Winnipeg could offer a lot more I'd think.

I'm confused about the specifics of a lot of the Expansion Draft rules though, can Vegas trade away "use" of one of their selections? Say Pittsburgh trades Fleury to Vegas and gets to select someone exposed by Washington in return? Even indirectly where Vegas gets Fleury for "future considerations", officially selects the player, then immediately flips him to the Pens?