Ya I'm on the side that thinks your crazy n haha. I mean you do anything you can to get mcdavid really but in points only with the+ on d men. Overall I think he won the trade but who cares you got mcdavid
Sitting with a 3-6 record, I am all but out of the running for the championship this year. I decided to mail it in and make a crazy offer to the McDavid owner who claimed he would NEVER trade him. A la Godfather, I made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Hedman, Kucherov and Matthews
for
McDavid.
The owners in our league are split, but they are at complete opposite sides of the spectrum. A couple say that I was nuts, and the others say that he was nuts. interesting how polarized this trade is.
10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka
Ya I'm on the side that thinks your crazy n haha. I mean you do anything you can to get mcdavid really but in points only with the+ on d men. Overall I think he won the trade but who cares you got mcdavid
10 Team Keeper (5)
Head-to-Head
G, A, SOG, PPP, FW, HIT, BLK
3 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 GOALIE
C: Barzal, Mcdavid, J. Staal, Mackinnon, Matthews,
LW: Guentzal, Lee, J.T Miller, Rakell
RW: Point, Nylander, Perron, Marner, Laine
D: Carlson, Hedman, Petry, Byfuglien, McAvoy
G: M. Jones, Price
How many keepers do you get to keep?
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka
10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
Yep, you're nuts.
Everyone always cites a plus on dmen points like it matters. It doesn't at all. That applies to every dman, so it creates more balance internally for the league, but doesn't matter from trade considerations.
I'll easily take the McDavid side here. This is the acquisition cost. You traded a second or third tier defenseman (Hedman is like Doughty, way higher name value than production), en elite forward, and an elite prospect that could be Tavares or could be Toews, for a superstar.
Lets face it, you got the only player that has a legitimate shot of cracking 100 points annually. Kuch & Matthews are 80-90 ceiling players. I love love Matthews, but that's also team bias. The "loss" of Kuch & Matthews point wise will be made up within a year. it's fantasy hockey, it's easy to replace holes in a roster.
Any time you acquire the best player in a deal, and when that player is McDavid... you can't entirely lose.
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McDavid 100pts
for
Kuch 80pts
Hedman 50pts plus significant trade equity
Mathews 70pts plus significant trade equity
This deal is significantly in favour of the Kuch side, just on points alone.
Losing Kucherov is significant, not only in points but in loss of a RW, the rarest of rare positions. Your loss of opportunity cost is even greater. With Kucherov, for example, you could have traded him away for his points + prospect + established player. In a keeper, the haul you paid for McDavid would have been equal to the haul you received for Kucherov, as he will become the second most valuable fantasy asset out there. Granted, McDavid is the best player in this deal, but to put it bluntly - your team is actually worse.
Whatever, it's fantasy hockey. Having a stud like McDavid to cheer for will help with your continued time in the gutter.
On the first day of having McDavid in the fold, I was approached by another GM with an offer:
P. Kane, Draisaitl and Price
for
McDavid and Rinne
EEESHHHHHH!!!!!
10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka
Take it. Sick flip.
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You could create an argument that you'd still be getting the best player in the deal - Price. Not a fair question to ask, not totally anyway, but one that will often be posted is...
Would you have traded
Kucherov, Matthews, Hedman
for
Kane, Price and Draisaitl ??
Tempting, I must admit.
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I'd probably take that deal as well. Really depends on if you want McDavid on your team or not.