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    Heyhooo

    I post this to look for help with my problem of the keeper-selection. Because I suggest, the problem will mainly be on the selection of the right defensemen I post it here:

    What do you think: Which 11 players should I keep? Which Goalie? Which of Risto, S. Jones, Faulk and Hamilton would you keep?
    Keep in mind, that we transfer our league to dynasty after this season!

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    C: Backstrom, Eichel, Turris, W. Nylander
    RW: Eberle, Stone, Voracek, McCarron
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang, Faulk, Hamilton, Ristolainen, Jones, Hanifin, Hamonic
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford,
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    RW: Marner, Rantanen, Stephenson, Blais, Coleman, Killorn
    LW: Gaudreau, Panarin, Kaprizov, B. Tkachuck, Guentzel, E. Kane
    D:E-Larrson, Trouba, McAvoy, Dahlin, Ristolainen, Walman, Matheson
    G:Hellebuyck, Sorokin, Saros

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    C: Backstrom, Eichel, Turris, W. Nylander
    RW: Eberle, Stone, Voracek, McCarron
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang, Faulk, Hamilton, Ristolainen, Jones, Hanifin, Hamonic
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford,

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    C: Backstrom, Eichel, Turris, W. Nylander
    RW: Eberle, Stone, Voracek, McCarron
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang, Faulk, Hamilton, Ristolainen, Jones, Hanifin, Hamonic
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford

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    my keepers. It'd be a toss up between Faulk and Eberle for me. I suppose it depends on whichever you think is harder to re-draft. I think Eberle's down year might push him just a little deeper into the draft than Faulk, since your league seems pretty D heavy.
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    If ever there was a team that was screaming "two for one" trade to consolidate, that is it.

    Could you move Lundqvist + one of Stone/Voracek/Risto/Hamilton for an upgrade in goal?

    Also, you have "hits" and "checks" as scoring categories. Should one of those be blocks?

    And FWIW, I like the advice above. I do think it's a coin flip between Eberle and Stone, as well as Faulk and Risto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    If ever there was a team that was screaming "two for one" trade to consolidate, that is it.

    Could you move Lundqvist + one of Stone/Voracek/Risto/Hamilton for an upgrade in goal?

    Also, you have "hits" and "checks" as scoring categories. Should one of those be blocks?

    And FWIW, I like the advice above. I do think it's a coin flip between Eberle and Stone, as well as Faulk and Risto.
    Agree here. I went with Eberle because of the McDavid hype/impact.

    Also I went with Risto because Carolina doesn't appear to have improved and +/- of Faulk could kill a fantasy team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Agree here. I went with Eberle because of the McDavid hype/impact.

    Also I went with Risto because Carolina doesn't appear to have improved and +/- of Faulk could kill a fantasy team.
    I think my biggest reasons for going Stone over Eberle would be the +/- as well. I think they're both going to have great opportunities on the PP and being similar at even strength production, and I just see Stone taking more shots.

    I'm also not convinced Faulk's +/- will be much worse than Risto's. Both teams are shaky in net, and there seems to more a few more defensively-minded dmen for Carolina to choose from that might help to mitigate Faulk's chances of being on the ice for goals against.

    All in all I think everyone's on the same page though, other than the couple of bubble players, the rest are pretty much locks.
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    F: Kucherov, Teravainen, Galchenyuk, Johansen, W Nylander, W Karlsson, Gourde, Vrana, Athanasiou, Vatrano, Buchnevich, Haula, Stastny, Puljujarvi, Eberle, Little, Kovalchuk, Kravtsov, Terry, Bertuzzi, Bratt, Kunin, Hintz, Heinen, Kahun, Sikura, Chytil, Iafallo
    D: E Karlsson, Montour, Gardiner, Girard, Faulk, Martinez, Fox, Cernak, Weegar, Pionk, Pilut, Bayreuther
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    C: Backstrom, Eichel, Turris, W. Nylander
    RW: Eberle, Stone, Voracek, McCarron
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang, Faulk, Hamilton, Ristolainen, Jones, Hanifin, Hamonic
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford,

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    C: Backstrom, Eichel
    RW: Stone, Voracek
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford

    I would keep 2 top-10 tenders since you're in a 10-team league with 11 keepers. Odds are that the top-10 tenders are kept and I would mouch prefer to have 2 locked down rather than scrambling for another one. Faulk would be my bubble pick here, but I think he will be re-draftable with more ease than Lundy. Since your forward lineup is pretty much complete (2 holes + the 4 extras), you can focus on drafting multiple D-men early on to fill in your quota.
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    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    If ever there was a team that was screaming "two for one" trade to consolidate, that is it.

    Could you move Lundqvist + one of Stone/Voracek/Risto/Hamilton for an upgrade in goal?

    Also, you have "hits" and "checks" as scoring categories. Should one of those be blocks?

    And FWIW, I like the advice above. I do think it's a coin flip between Eberle and Stone, as well as Faulk and Risto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolo View Post
    I think my biggest reasons for going Stone over Eberle would be the +/- as well. I think they're both going to have great opportunities on the PP and being similar at even strength production, and I just see Stone taking more shots.

    I'm also not convinced Faulk's +/- will be much worse than Risto's. Both teams are shaky in net, and there seems to more a few more defensively-minded dmen for Carolina to choose from that might help to mitigate Faulk's chances of being on the ice for goals against.

    All in all I think everyone's on the same page though, other than the couple of bubble players, the rest are pretty much locks.
    I see what you mean with more defensive minded d-men to choose from, but you also have to consider their top Centre is a defensive minded centre in Staal. It is important to keep pucks out of the net to ensure +/- doesn't get too low, but you also have to be on the ice when your team scores to get some additional pluses. I think Carolina as a whole will be minus significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    If ever there was a team that was screaming "two for one" trade to consolidate, that is it.

    Could you move Lundqvist + one of Stone/Voracek/Risto/Hamilton for an upgrade in goal?

    Also, you have "hits" and "checks" as scoring categories. Should one of those be blocks?

    And FWIW, I like the advice above. I do think it's a coin flip between Eberle and Stone, as well as Faulk and Risto.
    ouu yes this has to be blocks.... and right now i can't trade anybody, so your advice is a superbe one, but I don't think can be achieved until we re-draft....
    I should have posted my question some time ago..

    thx for all those good advices!! you're helping me a lot! I'm waiting for more :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    C: Backstrom, Eichel, Turris, W. Nylander
    RW: Eberle, Stone, Voracek, McCarron
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang, Faulk, Hamilton, Ristolainen, Jones, Hanifin, Hamonic
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford,
    no panarin, no forsberg?
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    G, A, FOW, PPP, PIM, Shots, Hits, Blocks
    Wins, GAA, Shots, Save%, Shutout

    Plus: Yearly 2 Prospect-Picks, on which you have the rights for 3 years. Maximal 6 prospects overall

    C:, Eichel, Pettersson, Bennett, Cates
    RW: Marner, Rantanen, Stephenson, Blais, Coleman, Killorn
    LW: Gaudreau, Panarin, Kaprizov, B. Tkachuck, Guentzel, E. Kane
    D:E-Larrson, Trouba, McAvoy, Dahlin, Ristolainen, Walman, Matheson
    G:Hellebuyck, Sorokin, Saros

    IR:
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    Prospects (right now not in the Team): Q. Byfield

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    Same as the general consensus (minus chuck couples) and I like the Eberle/Risto side. It's also tough giving up Willy Nylander. As the above said, 2 for one deals if you can.

    Worst case scenario, your team looks solid, young, and you fill a lot of positions/categories/ages etc.
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    I'm thinking about keeping more D's (namely Faulk AND Risto) for Eberle/Stone because on Dobber-Hockey one week ago it was stated, that D's are more and more becoming important. What do you think about that? I know Eberle and McJesus and so on and that Mark Stone is a fantastic player but what do you think. What should I weight more heavily?

    Thx for the help
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    Wins, GAA, Shots, Save%, Shutout

    Plus: Yearly 2 Prospect-Picks, on which you have the rights for 3 years. Maximal 6 prospects overall

    C:, Eichel, Pettersson, Bennett, Cates
    RW: Marner, Rantanen, Stephenson, Blais, Coleman, Killorn
    LW: Gaudreau, Panarin, Kaprizov, B. Tkachuck, Guentzel, E. Kane
    D:E-Larrson, Trouba, McAvoy, Dahlin, Ristolainen, Walman, Matheson
    G:Hellebuyck, Sorokin, Saros

    IR:
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    Prospects (right now not in the Team): Q. Byfield

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    You have a nice problem to have. I think you want to keep the best players you can keep,a nd not worry overly much about the conversion to dynasty. I am assuming the following:

    1. Conversion to dynasty doesn't involve cap ramifications.
    2. You note 23 players, but the breakdown totals 21 and you only have 21 on roster.

    C: Backstrom, Eichel, Turris, W. Nylander
    RW: Eberle, Stone, Voracek, McCarron
    LW: Forsberg, Gaudreau, Panarin
    D: E-Larrson, Letang, Faulk, Hamilton, Ristolainen, Jones, Hanifin, Hamonic
    G: Lundqvist, Crawford,

    I really wanted to kep a 3rd defenseman, but decided that if I couldn't choose which defenseman you should keep, you should keep none of them, and just redraft them as they fall. You will have a solid core needing little up front, and a solid top pair on defense.
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