Reply With QuoteThey're both going to command big bucks, so I'd still lean towards the rarity here: Karlsson.
Seguin or Karlson?
Salary cap, 12 team, 13 keeper
Karlson up for a new contract in 2 years , Seguin3
Who do you prefer?
Wallbanger
F(9 Start - 82 games)- Matthews, Marner, Point, Barkov, Larkin, Raymond, Zadina Dennisenko, Farabee, Tolvannen, Palat, Mcann , Carter , Barre Boulet
D(6 Start - 82 games)- Makar,Hughes, Seider, Dobson, Josi, Grelcyk
G(1 start - 82 games)- Sorokin, Varly
12 Team Year long Pool- No hits
Salary Cap - $88M
23 man Roster - keep 13
no farm
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G=3, A=2, +/-=+1/-1, PIM=.2, SOG=.1
W=4, L=-2, Save=.1, SO=5
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
They're both going to command big bucks, so I'd still lean towards the rarity here: Karlsson.
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Re: Seguin or Karlson?
Karlsson for me as well.
Traded Seguin+ for Karlsson+ at the beginning of last year, and never had second thoughts about it.
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Re: Seguin or Karlson?
Karlsson for me as well!
NHL Caphit(79.5M),pts only keeper league,16 Teams,Weekly H2H,Start 6F 4D 1G
F:Backstrom,Matthews,Giroux,Kessel,Barzal,Bailey,S tone,Labanc,Steel
D:Klingberg,Krug,Vatanen,Letang,Girard,Liljegren
G:Bobrovsky,Murray,Ullmark,Hart,Parsons
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
Sure, another vote for Karlsson.
12 teams, Yahoo H2H, daily, keep 5.
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 5BN, IR+
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK
W, GAA, SA, SV%, SHO
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, Pettersson
LW: M.Tkachuk (+RW), Zucker (+RW), Coleman (+RW), N.Foligno (+C)
RW: Kucherov, Svechnikov (+LW), W.Nylander (+C), Kassian
D: Karlsson, Hughes,Doughty, Ekblad, Hronek, McNabb, Cernak
G: Lehner, Grubauer, Francouz
IR+:
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
the one caveat here for me is that you do seem weaker up front than you are on d... would probably want to use him to land several pieces than just go stud for stud
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
its a keep 13, I'm keeping 5F 6D 2G
yes I know keeping 6D sounds crazy but as I said D are far harder to come by
Giroux Schwartz larkin fabbri wenberg
Karlson Klingberg Vaatanen Ghost Parayko Lindell
Alllen Helly
I will be going into the draft with 35M to spend on 10 guys and have 2 firsts. Plenty of F available to draft a decent forward lineup
Wallbanger
F(9 Start - 82 games)- Matthews, Marner, Point, Barkov, Larkin, Raymond, Zadina Dennisenko, Farabee, Tolvannen, Palat, Mcann , Carter , Barre Boulet
D(6 Start - 82 games)- Makar,Hughes, Seider, Dobson, Josi, Grelcyk
G(1 start - 82 games)- Sorokin, Varly
12 Team Year long Pool- No hits
Salary Cap - $88M
23 man Roster - keep 13
no farm
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G=3, A=2, +/-=+1/-1, PIM=.2, SOG=.1
W=4, L=-2, Save=.1, SO=5
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
6 d isn't crazy but those 6 are. I'd be keeping Bergeron and Voracek over Parayko and definitely Lindell. I'll concede that an argument could be made for Pararko.
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16 Team Lifetime Keeper: Total Fantasy Points; Weekly Changes (Mon.) 32 Man Roster
Dress 2 G, 6 D, 12 F
Keep 17 of 32 and Less Than 41gp Career Including Playoffs
G=2, A=1, +/-=1, Pim=0.2
W=4, L= -2, SO=5
F= Parise, Marleau, Kopitar, Nichushkin ,Schwartz, Nyquist, Backes, Backstrom, Perry, Zetterberg, Thornton, Iginla, Lecavalier, Burrows, Goldobin, Jones, Petan, Virtanen, Vrana
D= S. Weber, Gostisbehere, McDonagh, Miller, Enstrom, Girardi, Colaiacovo, Boyle, Carrick
G= Lundqvist, Rinne, Tokarski
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
I second this. D may be tough to get, but so is top tier talent. And top tier talent is less replaceable, especially in a deep league, than lower caliber D are.Originally Posted by HRM Fantasy Fan
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Re: Seguin or Karlson?
Agree here as well... I might keep Parayko, but Lindell should probably not be drafted in the first few rounds of your draft anyway, so keep a sure thing forward instead.
And I'll add that in your format, the D to F ratio is quite skewed toward D (or in other word, D are more scarce, hence the reason why it's not crazy to keep a lot of Ds).
16 team, dynasty cap league (real salary), Points ONLY (W=2+SO=3)
Count best 12 F, 6 D, 2 G || 19-20 Cap = 94M
F: Point, Matthews, DeBrincat, Kessel, Malkin, Meier, Gourde, Hinostroza, Toffoli, Batherson, Jankowski, Prokhorkin, Nick Ritchie, Maroon, Thompson, Kravtsov, Sikura, Lunderstrom
D: Letang, Krug, Gostisbehere, DeAngelo, Manson, Persson, Djoos
G: Bobrovsky, Fleury, Merzlikins, Subban, Gustavsson, Sandstrom, Gillies, Husso
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
Thanks for the replies
I dropped Voracek near the end of the year when he was injured. Yes, dropped, $10m this year, no way no how is he even close to worth that in a 23 man, 12 team, $73M salary cap league. There were plenty of forwards in our pool who had far more pool points than Jake last year at well below 50% of his current $10M salary. I owned a few who I'm not keeping including R Smith and Jokinen and there will be plenty more this year. Allocating $10M for Voracek would hinder any team in a salary cap league.
I'm of the opinion there are very few if any $10M players that are worth it in a 23 man $73M Cap league
Bergeron I have debated at $8.75 vs Lindell as my final keeper. I just would rather have the $8M to play with at the draft.
I agree Lindell should not be kept. Coulda said the same last year about keeping ghost. pretty sure that worked out just fine
Thanks again for the opinions
Wallbanger
F(9 Start - 82 games)- Matthews, Marner, Point, Barkov, Larkin, Raymond, Zadina Dennisenko, Farabee, Tolvannen, Palat, Mcann , Carter , Barre Boulet
D(6 Start - 82 games)- Makar,Hughes, Seider, Dobson, Josi, Grelcyk
G(1 start - 82 games)- Sorokin, Varly
12 Team Year long Pool- No hits
Salary Cap - $88M
23 man Roster - keep 13
no farm
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G=3, A=2, +/-=+1/-1, PIM=.2, SOG=.1
W=4, L=-2, Save=.1, SO=5
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
And WRT to Paryko hes an absolute stud in salary cap league this year, no question even if he regresses a little, but if shatty is traded watch out
Guys like him help u win Salary cap leagues
I'm pretty sure I could get a mid first for him. So lets say I do, I would be very happy to re draft him in that spot, 100% keeper. I'm going for the win again this year
Wallbanger
F(9 Start - 82 games)- Matthews, Marner, Point, Barkov, Larkin, Raymond, Zadina Dennisenko, Farabee, Tolvannen, Palat, Mcann , Carter , Barre Boulet
D(6 Start - 82 games)- Makar,Hughes, Seider, Dobson, Josi, Grelcyk
G(1 start - 82 games)- Sorokin, Varly
12 Team Year long Pool- No hits
Salary Cap - $88M
23 man Roster - keep 13
no farm
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G=3, A=2, +/-=+1/-1, PIM=.2, SOG=.1
W=4, L=-2, Save=.1, SO=5
Re: Seguin or Karlson?
I'd recommend not keeping 6 defensemen, and keeping Elliot instead of Lindell. You cover yourself better if Helly is in the AHL, and finding a #6 defenseman should be easy. I am unsure of the cap implications, but would think it's not too bad.
I would keep Karlsson over getting Seguin, but it';s dang close with blueline you have.
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Re: Seguin or Karlson?
Karlson for sure - regardless of what your forward core looks like.
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