[Rumor] Matt Duchene to Winnipeg for Jacob Trouba

[iwinthings]

And that's why Team Canada has selected him for the World Cup and the most recent Olympics over a boatload of other very high end quality hockey players...

You're right. He's the perfect hockey player.

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"God" should be capitalized. But who really, really, REALLY wants to sit around reading people correct each other's spelling?

Well, if anyone here would know the proper way to punctuate her/his/its name, it would be you Moses!

[Moses]

BTW - I blame this all on Steve Duchesne. LOL

[Dobber]

It is really, really, REALLY not a hard name to spell. My god.

Without knowing a thing about you two, I would guess that Moses is over the age of 40 and you are under the age of 30. Or in that ballpark. If you were in fantasy hockey during the Steve Duchesne years then trust me - it was very hard to drop the habit of putting in the 's'. When Matt was first drafted, I had to consciously fix a few dozen mentions of him in my articles and posts before it started becoming second nature.

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BTW - I blame this all on Steve Duchesne. LOL

Ha! I wrote the above before I saw this post

[PrairieDog]

Wow, that would be effing amazing. Duchene's played a lot of wing before, I think Little has too (?), so they could shuffle things around.

As a Jets fan you're really toying with my emotions here.

[rataylor22]

"God" should be capitalized. But who really, really, REALLY wants to sit around reading people correct each other's spelling?

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I see Winnipeg as a team that needs to get better, not deeper, to get over the hump. Little is a good hockey player. I would argue that a Duchene/Scheifele 1-2 combo is better than a Scheifele/Little 1-2 combo. You shouldn't not try to acquire a Duchene because you have a Little. Better yet a 1-2-3 combo of Duchene/Scheifele/Little is better than a 1-2-3 combo of Scheifele/Little/Lowry.

Not in the context I used it, actually.

[Reuben]

"god" actually shouldn't be capitalized in that context.

But I agree with your bottom point. Why can't Winnipeg roll with a Scheifele/Duchene/Little threesome down the middle?

[Moses]

"god" actually shouldn't be capitalized in that context.

But I agree with your bottom point. Why can't Winnipeg roll with a Scheifele/Duchene/Little threesome down the middle?

God dammit, you're right. LOL

[Axeman33]

"God" should be capitalized. But who really, really, REALLY wants to sit around reading people correct each other's spelling?

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I see Winnipeg as a team that needs to get better, not deeper, to get over the hump. Little is a good hockey player. I would argue that a Duchene/Scheifele 1-2 combo is better than a Scheifele/Little 1-2 combo. You shouldn't not try to acquire a Duchene because you have a Little. Better yet a 1-2-3 combo of Duchene/Scheifele/Little is better than a 1-2-3 combo of Scheifele/Little/Lowry.

How deep into the playoffs did Colorado do last year with Duchene leading that team?

[Goldendelicious]

"god" actually shouldn't be capitalized in that context.

But I agree with your bottom point. Why can't Winnipeg roll with a Scheifele/Duchene/Little threesome down the middle?

Because you're not paying one of Little ($4.7M), Duchene ($6M) or Scheifele (could be $6+M) to center a third line at those contracts. There a perfectly competent 3rd line centers on better contracts to fill this role. Doing this is poor cap management, doesn't matter how much cap space you have.

[Reuben]

How deep into the playoffs did Colorado do last year with Duchene leading that team?

I dunno. How far did Toronto go with Phil Kessel leading that team? Yet he's a win away from a Cup.

different situations lead to different results.

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Because you're not paying one of Little ($4.7M), Duchene ($6M) or Scheifele (could be $6+M) to center a third line at those contracts. There a perfectly competent 3rd line centers on better contracts to fill this role. Doing this is poor cap management, doesn't matter how much cap space you have.

Mmm. Tis true. I didn't think of the salaries.

[Moses]

How deep into the playoffs did Colorado do last year with Duchene leading that team?

Duchene had a FO% of 57.9%

The rest of the Avalance players who played a (somewhat) regular shift at centre had FO% of 48.3%, 47.1%, 48.9, 37.5%, 48.8%.

"That team" was the problem.

[Moses]

Because you're not paying one of Little ($4.7M), Duchene ($6M) or Scheifele (could be $6+M) to center a third line at those contracts. There a perfectly competent 3rd line centers on better contracts to fill this role. Doing this is poor cap management, doesn't matter how much cap space you have.

I think to get over the hump and be a consistent playoff team they need three C's like this. That is the cost of winning.

2016 Penguins: Crosby/Malkin/Bonino = $20.3M (AVG - $6.7M)
2016 Sharks: Couture/Pavelski/Thorton/Marleau/Tierney = $26.11 (AVG -$5.2M) *Let's face it, it is hard to say who 'exactly' plays C in SJ. LOL*

[Axeman33]

Duchene had a FO% of 57.9%

The rest of the Avalance players who played a (somewhat) regular shift at centre had FO% of 48.3%, 47.1%, 48.9, 37.5%, 48.8%.

"That team" was the problem.

Couldnt one say the same thing about Winnipeg? It's hard to peg it down to one player making the difference in making the playoffs and not making the playoffs.

Either way, Little is too good to be a #3 center but stranger things have happened I suppose. Maybe moving Duchene or Little to the wing makes sense but they are already heavy in top six type forwards/wingers too. This is why I say I am not sure a trade like this makes sense for the Jets.

It also leaves a pretty big hole in their backend.

[Moses]

Couldnt one say the same thing about Winnipeg? It's hard to peg it down to one player making the difference in making the playoffs and not making the playoffs.

Either way, Little is too good to be a #3 center but stranger things have happened I suppose. Maybe moving Duchene or Little to the wing makes sense but they are already heavy in top six type forwards/wingers too. This is why I say I am not sure a trade like this makes sense for the Jets.

It also leaves a pretty big hole in their backend.

@AXE - I have moved away from the idea that teams need a 'bottom six' and a 'top six'. I think the game is moving towards good/elite/competitive teams have three x #1 lines (or as good as a team can make each line) then a plug/specialist/7th D in the 'bottom 3'. If I subscribe to this belief, and I do, and I also subscribe to the belief that you have to have a strong centreman as the backbone of a line, then you need 3 talented centres to be a really good team.

This is why I see no problem with team like the Jets investing heavily in the C position.

[The Bottlenecker]

My God, you'd think both the Avalance and the Winnepeg Jets could just make a deal like this: Littel and Troupe for Barry and Duchesne.

Everything settled...my work here is done!