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    For the league in my sig I approached the Hoffman owner looking to see if he was available. Before I could even send my own offer he sent one my way.

    The initial offer was Hoffman for Dvorak/Zacha, Matheson and 9th overall (2016). I talked him down to two of the three pieces so he moved Matheson out of the equation.

    Would you move Dvorak (I prefer to keep Zacha) and 9th overall for Hoffman?
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    I think Dvorak is a special talent but getting a 55-65pt guy like Hoffman in a 22-team league is gold. I would hold back myself (bias as I own Dvorak), but if you need the firepower now, Hoffman is good for 25g and 55pts with a shot a 60 on a given year IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass56 View Post
    I think Dvorak is a special talent but getting a 55-65pt guy like Hoffman in a 22-team league is gold. I would hold back myself (bias as I own Dvorak), but if you need the firepower now, Hoffman is good for 25g and 55pts with a shot a 60 on a given year IMO.
    Thanks Bass!

    I really like Dvorak myself, having read about him a lot before he was scooped up by the Coyotes in the 2nd round (draft was deep, but I think getting him at 58 was a steal) so I don't mind holding onto him.
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    This league is very offense-heavy so I prefer Dvorak over Zacha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    This league is very offense-heavy so I prefer Dvorak over Zacha.
    I agree with this, and I think I would do Zacha + 9 for Hoffman.
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    I like Hoffman's chances of having a career year this season. He's still young enough that he has room to grow and he's getting his old junior coach back. The 9th pick in this year's draft will not be relevant in your league for at least 3 years. Zacha/Dvorak are both at least 1 and likely 2 seasons away from being any where near 40 point guys. This deal definitely makes your team better for the next two seasons and it MIGHT hurt you after that. That's a chance I would be willing to make with the lineup you have in your league.

    Hoffman is 19th in the NHL in goals scored over the past 2 seasons with very little PP time.

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    I'd move Dvorak + 9th for Hoffman. I'd move Zacha + Dvorak for Hoffman. See where I'm going ? do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yougo View Post
    I'd move Dvorak + 9th for Hoffman. I'd move Zacha + Dvorak for Hoffman. See where I'm going ? do it.
    I like the idea of moving Dvorak and Zacha for Hoffman. I'm trying to see if I can use my 9th pick to move up to 4 or 5 (same GM owns both).

    If I could package a few assets to get Hoffman and Tkachuk/Dubois I'd be pretty happy.
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    RW: Volkov, Fortier, Evans, Blichfeld, Legare, Tieksola
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    Quote Originally Posted by SensArmy93 View Post
    I like the idea of moving Dvorak and Zacha for Hoffman. I'm trying to see if I can use my 9th pick to move up to 4 or 5 (same GM owns both).

    If I could package a few assets to get Hoffman and Tkachuk/Dubois I'd be pretty happy.
    Just to be clear....

    Zacha > 9th overall
    Dvorak > 9th overall

    What I meant in my post is that Hoffman is worth both of them IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yougo View Post
    Just to be clear....

    Zacha > 9th overall
    Dvorak > 9th overall

    What I meant in my post is that Hoffman is worth both of them IMO.
    Ahhh got it, thanks!
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    4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 4B 27M

    G (1) A (1) +/- (.25) PIM (.05) SOG (.05) PPP (.5) HIT (.05) BLK (.05) FOW (.01)
    W (1.75) GA (-1) SV (.1) SO (3)

    C: Seguin, Kuznetsov, Trocheck, Johansen, Kostin
    LW: Benn, Lindblom, Dickinson, Kubalik
    RW: Tuch, Fabbri, Bjorkstrand, Terry
    D: Klingberg, Chabot, Girard, Spurgeon, C Miller, Theodore, Marino
    G: Hellebuyck, Berdin

    C: Elvenes, Vorobyev, Spacek, Jones, Eyssimont, Daviddson, Shvyrev
    LW: Dorofyev, Koivula, Shalagin, Dugan, Cates, Ranta
    RW: Volkov, Fortier, Evans, Blichfeld, Legare, Tieksola
    D: Laaksonen, Gilbert, Pilut
    G: Samsonov, Sorokin, Knight, Zagidulin


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