in a keep 5 i wouldn't think that would be enough. He will probably counter with MacKinnon + Pavelski type offer
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Crosby owner is in last place and I'd like to try and get Crosby from him. I'm thinking about offering Pavelski, Carlson and Hanzal. Is it enough? Too much? It's a keep 5, so at the end I'd get the best player and "win" this trade, but I don't want to give up on this season yet.
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in a keep 5 i wouldn't think that would be enough. He will probably counter with MacKinnon + Pavelski type offer
Unless both Carlson and Pavelski make his keeper list I would guess its not enough. I think the price to get Crosby is probably still two good keepers.
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Agree with this. In a keep-five, the elite talent matters even more than a keep-12, for example and I don't think any of the guys you offered would be a keeper (off the top of my head, he would probably keep Crosby, Perry, Tarasenko, Voracek and Shattenkirk). That means one of the players you send him needs to be a major upgrade on one of those guys. If I were him, I'd only trade Crosby if I was getting one of McDavid, Karlsson or Holtby back.
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It's not even close to enough if the other guy has any competence. If he's at the bottom of the league, those players aren't going to help him much anyways.
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Thanks guys.
Obviously, I though I'll try and see if he's frustrated enough by Crosby's slow start (he is last in our league after 2 weeks) and also sell high on Hanzal and Carlson. I know it's still early in the season, but I guess my keepers are McDavid, Karlsson, MacKinnon, Holtby and Eichel, with Landeskog as a very close 6th... maybe I could try with some combination of Pavelski, Landeskog and Eichel. For some reason I don't think he values Eichel as much as I do though.
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In a keep 5 Crosby is virtually untradeable. Unless you're offering McDavid/Holtby + Karlsson, you're wasting your time.
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