I would try to remove Nichushkin from the deal and then would accept gladly!
Hey everyone, hoping for some confirmation on my gut feeling. I have been offered Seguin, Voracek, Vatanen, 4th overall pick 2015, and 4th rounder for Hertl, Nichushkin, D.Pouliot, 1st overall pick (McDavid) and 1st next year. I have the McDavid pick. It is a standard points only and we keep any 12. We use actually salary and not cap hit or aav. I think I am giving up too much in this deal. My current keepers are Ovechkin, Benn, Duchene, Hertl, Nichushkin, Tavares, Pacioretty, Schwartz, OEL, D.Pouliot, Luongo and Bernier. I am leaning towards no because McDavid will be a beast at .925 for the next 3 years, and the prospects I give up are pretty good. Plus, I will be really heavy on salary. Am I wrong here? Thanks for any and all help!
12 Team Keeper, Cap 69.0mil, 12f,6d,2g 8Farm - use Cap Hit
Scoring G/A/PPG/PPA/SHG/SHA/Hits/GWG/OTG/Shots/-PIM
F-Giroux/N.Backstrom/Voracek/Getzlaf/Granlund/Soderberg/Toffoli/Hertl/Bennett/Shaw/Zibanejad/Etem
D-Pietrangelo/Keith/Kronwall/HLindholm/Donovan/Hamilton/CMurphy
Farm - Dumba/Maatta/Strome/Huberdeau/Teravainen/Kapanen/Honka/Koekkoek
G-Price/Bernier
14 Team Keeper, Cap 64.3mil,Pts only, 9f,4d,2g
F-Malkin/Benn/Backstrom/Voracek/Nichushkin/Teravainen/Kucherov/Stastny/Foligno/Coyle/Forsberg/
D-Hedman/Reilly/Goligoski/B.Smith/Murphy/Ellis
G-Rinne/Lehtonen
I would try to remove Nichushkin from the deal and then would accept gladly!
WHL - World Hockey League (24-Team Daily H2H) Est. 2015
Vancouver Voodoo
C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
G: Andersen, Mason
Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette
12 team, keep 15 H2H Weekly
Crosby, Malkin, Seguin, Kessel, Kucherov, Byfuglien, OEL, Klingberg, Holtby, Quick, Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Simmonds, Arvidsson, Schenn
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Do you have a chance at winning this year if you make that deal? If yes, then I would strongly consider doing it.
if you can win this year maybe since
after this year
voracek 10m kick in
ovy 10m
seguin 6m
tavares 6m
duchesne 6m
benn 5.7m
i don't know what is your salary cap but a ton of cash for 6 player...
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Also I meant to mention if the guy says no to removing Nichushkin, I would still take that deal.
You still get one of Strome/Marner, and at the end of the day how much better realistically will McDavid be then Seguin....and how long until (IF) he becomes a better fantasy producer...I would take the sure thing of Seguin + Voracek + the upside of Strome/Marner over McDavid + Nichushkin....the dmen are awash IMO in this. Hertl I would not put too much value in within this deal.
WHL - World Hockey League (24-Team Daily H2H) Est. 2015
Vancouver Voodoo
C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
G: Andersen, Mason
Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette
12 team, keep 15 H2H Weekly
Crosby, Malkin, Seguin, Kessel, Kucherov, Byfuglien, OEL, Klingberg, Holtby, Quick, Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Simmonds, Arvidsson, Schenn
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I do have a chance to win this year, but as Nordique fan stated, my salary would blow up. I actually might have a chance to win it with the addition of McDavid. Definitely waffling here. I would be a one and done for the win, if everything falls into place this year.
12 Team Keeper, Cap 69.0mil, 12f,6d,2g 8Farm - use Cap Hit
Scoring G/A/PPG/PPA/SHG/SHA/Hits/GWG/OTG/Shots/-PIM
F-Giroux/N.Backstrom/Voracek/Getzlaf/Granlund/Soderberg/Toffoli/Hertl/Bennett/Shaw/Zibanejad/Etem
D-Pietrangelo/Keith/Kronwall/HLindholm/Donovan/Hamilton/CMurphy
Farm - Dumba/Maatta/Strome/Huberdeau/Teravainen/Kapanen/Honka/Koekkoek
G-Price/Bernier
14 Team Keeper, Cap 64.3mil,Pts only, 9f,4d,2g
F-Malkin/Benn/Backstrom/Voracek/Nichushkin/Teravainen/Kucherov/Stastny/Foligno/Coyle/Forsberg/
D-Hedman/Reilly/Goligoski/B.Smith/Murphy/Ellis
G-Rinne/Lehtonen
He will be .93mil. Incredible value potentially. I have a pretty good group of keepers going forward.
12 Team Keeper, Cap 69.0mil, 12f,6d,2g 8Farm - use Cap Hit
Scoring G/A/PPG/PPA/SHG/SHA/Hits/GWG/OTG/Shots/-PIM
F-Giroux/N.Backstrom/Voracek/Getzlaf/Granlund/Soderberg/Toffoli/Hertl/Bennett/Shaw/Zibanejad/Etem
D-Pietrangelo/Keith/Kronwall/HLindholm/Donovan/Hamilton/CMurphy
Farm - Dumba/Maatta/Strome/Huberdeau/Teravainen/Kapanen/Honka/Koekkoek
G-Price/Bernier
14 Team Keeper, Cap 64.3mil,Pts only, 9f,4d,2g
F-Malkin/Benn/Backstrom/Voracek/Nichushkin/Teravainen/Kucherov/Stastny/Foligno/Coyle/Forsberg/
D-Hedman/Reilly/Goligoski/B.Smith/Murphy/Ellis
G-Rinne/Lehtonen
I think you should keep McDavid then! At less than a 1M per year, he's incredible value. Your team is already very strong, take advantage of his low cap hit.
Sorry, didn't notice you had written his salary in OP.
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Next year Voracek makes $10M, Vatenen will make about $5M+, Seguin gets $6M. That's $21M+.
If you keep what you have and assume that Hertl and Nichushkin get $7M combined, Pouliot will still be $830k and McDavid will be $925k the salary for your group will be less than $9M.
I don't see what you actual cap is. Let's say it is $69M. The Voracek side would cost you about 30% of the cap next year while the McDavid side will be 13%. That is a HUGE diffference. MASSIVE!
Make the deal and you are capf**ked next year and you don't have McDavid. That's a no for me.
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Thank you for the responses, they were a big help. I decided to keep the McDavid and roll the dice with my roster. The last response from Moses solidified what I was thinking, as well as the previous posts. I appreciate the help from a great group here!
12 Team Keeper, Cap 69.0mil, 12f,6d,2g 8Farm - use Cap Hit
Scoring G/A/PPG/PPA/SHG/SHA/Hits/GWG/OTG/Shots/-PIM
F-Giroux/N.Backstrom/Voracek/Getzlaf/Granlund/Soderberg/Toffoli/Hertl/Bennett/Shaw/Zibanejad/Etem
D-Pietrangelo/Keith/Kronwall/HLindholm/Donovan/Hamilton/CMurphy
Farm - Dumba/Maatta/Strome/Huberdeau/Teravainen/Kapanen/Honka/Koekkoek
G-Price/Bernier
14 Team Keeper, Cap 64.3mil,Pts only, 9f,4d,2g
F-Malkin/Benn/Backstrom/Voracek/Nichushkin/Teravainen/Kucherov/Stastny/Foligno/Coyle/Forsberg/
D-Hedman/Reilly/Goligoski/B.Smith/Murphy/Ellis
G-Rinne/Lehtonen
You are welcome.
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That was a decend deal, but the cap makes it hard to accept.
Keep McDavid!