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    Default New draft just completed....curious to hear thoughts :)

    Hi,

    Just completed the inaugural WHL draft (24 teams) and I had the 19th overall pick. Curious to get some feedback on what you think? Roster in sig.
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
    LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
    RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
    D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
    G: Andersen, Mason
    Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette

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    Looks a little better than mine right now

    Huberdeau should break out this year.

    Scared of the Patty Kane situation but who knows what will happen there. Might end up being nothing.

    Carlson is going to be a beast for years to come.

    Having Andersen and Mason is a huge plus for you. If you don't want to ride them both you may be able to land a high-end forward by packaging one of them with one of your younger players (if you wanna go that route!).

    Reinhart and Meier should turn into gold. Mantha and Matheson are also decent names to have in the stockpile.

    It was an incredible(ly tough) draft. There wasn't a team that came out on top. 5 or 6 teams going for it for the next 2-3 years. 8-10 teams stuck between short vs. long term strategy, and then 4 or 5 teams clearly waiting in the weeds with young talent expected to breakout 2-4 years from now (I aimed for that section myself). I think you fall in that middle section. You gotta decide if you wanna go for it now (trade youth with potential for older guys before the other teams in your grey area do it first and leave you without any trading partners) or go for it later (and trade away your vets to teams going for it for their youth - you also gotta think about doing that now or closer to the deadline where you might get more value for them).

    My $0.02! Not sure if you were looking for it from a GM in the same league

    In any event, looking forward to being in this league with you, my friend!
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    Aside from potential criminal Patrick Kane you seem not to have drafted any elite players. If this is points only I am not too excited (so sorry) and even some of your prospects may not amount to much (so sorry again).
    I'll assume it has several peripheral categories since you drafted Zac Rinaldo.

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    VV that emoticon is hilarious lol. And I wouldn't be down on that roster, some elite young talent in Eichel & Bennett!

    It's all speculative right now anyway, just curious on perception of roster...(without sharing my strategy since so many GMs are on here haha)

    I drafted Kane prior to that coming out....otherwise may have gone MacKinnon. With 24 teams and only getting 2 picks every 48 picks no team has numerous elite players, some may have more "name value" players however depending on strategy. Much appreciate the feedback! (no need to apologize)
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
    LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
    RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
    D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
    G: Andersen, Mason
    Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette

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    Crosby, Malkin, Seguin, Kessel, Kucherov, Byfuglien, OEL, Klingberg, Holtby, Quick, Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Simmonds, Arvidsson, Schenn


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    I agree VV. That draft was tough, no real bad picks throughout.

    If anyone is interested in a trade like that I am certainly open, always open to trade discussions
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
    LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
    RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
    D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
    G: Andersen, Mason
    Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette

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    I really like the picks of Grigorenko and Hodgson in a capped league. Smart picking. Panarin could be a good pick up, too.

    It is unfortunate that your draft was before the Kane situation, because MacKinnon would have been a better pick (possibly a better pick, regardless, given that it is a cap league and he won't reach Kane's $10.5 cap hit for a number of years). Huberdeau and Carlson will both be very productive for you, and I don't hate your goaltending, either. Getting two starting goalies is tough in a 24 team league, and you have managed to do it for a little over $5 million.

    Without seeing other teams, I would say that your team looks pretty good. As
    mojavedesert mentioned, there does not seem to be an elite scorer on your team (due to what happened after the fact to Kane), which is unfortunate. That said, I think your overall depth is pretty good.

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    @GoNucks
    I'm gonna say you'll slot somewhere into the Bottom-8, in Year1.

    I like that you grabbed F.Andersen(ANA), because he has the best off-night schedule... and the 1G spot means you will have the least "conflicts" of your 2nd goalie (Mason) to your starter.
    That's good value since goalies are best "per game" scorers.

    That's the good news.
    Bad news is that you drafted a lot of players that won't produce better than their draft spot for about 3+ years.
    Looking at your round-by-round top 20 draft list:

    Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    Pos Player Rnd Pk Ov Type
    RW Kane, Patrick - CHI 1 19 19 LS
    G Andersen, Frederik - ANA 2 6 30 LS
    D Carlson, John - WAS 3 19 67 LS

    LW Huberdeau, Jonathan - FLA 4 6 78 LS
    G Mason, Steve - PHI 5 19 115 LS
    D Faulk, Justin - CAR 6 6 126 LS

    RW Mantha, Anthony - DET 7 19 163 LS
    C Reinhart, Sam - BUF 8 6 174 LS
    C Couturier, Sean - PHI 9 19 211 LS
    C Grigorenko, Mikhail - COL 10 6 222 LS
    RW Virtanen, Jake - VAN 11 19 259 LS

    LW Panarin, Artemi - CHI 12 6 270 LS
    LW Beleskey, Matt - BOS 13 19 307 LS
    F Hodgson, Cody - NAS 14 6 318 LS

    RW Meier, Timo - SJ 15 19 355 LS
    D Voynov, Slava - LA 16 6 366 LS
    F Karlsson, Melker - SJ 17 19 403 LS
    D Matheson, Michael - FLA 18 6 414 LS
    C Lander, Anton - EDM 19 19 451 LS

    D de Haan, Calvin - NYI 20 6 462 LS

    There's a LOT of youth in this list.
    Not much proven veterans.
    And some crap-shoots than might pan out great, might not pan out at all.
    At the end of any year, the team that wins is going to have guys that best outperformed their draft spot best (i.e. "Value") + Injury Luck + Trade-Boost-Value

    Based on the team talent alone (no trades, no good or bad injury luck), I'll forecast:
    Year 1: 20th
    Year 2: 14th
    Year 3: 9th

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    Quote Originally Posted by VintageVibe View Post
    Having Andersen and Mason is a huge plus for you. If you don't want to ride them both you may be able to land a high-end forward by packaging one of them with one of your younger players (if you wanna go that route!).
    Agree with this. You should get a lot of starts out these two as long as they stay healthy. When Mason goes down we can talk about a Neuvirth trade
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    Sucks! I think it sucks!

    haha.

    Had to chime in

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    Thanks for all the feedback!
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
    LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
    RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
    D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
    G: Andersen, Mason
    Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    @GoNucks
    I'm gonna say you'll slot somewhere into the Bottom-8, in Year1.

    I like that you grabbed F.Andersen(ANA), because he has the best off-night schedule... and the 1G spot means you will have the least "conflicts" of your 2nd goalie (Mason) to your starter.
    That's good value since goalies are best "per game" scorers.

    That's the good news.
    Bad news is that you drafted a lot of players that won't produce better than their draft spot for about 3+ years.
    Looking at your round-by-round top 20 draft list:

    Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    Pos Player Rnd Pk Ov Type
    RW Kane, Patrick - CHI 1 19 19 LS
    G Andersen, Frederik - ANA 2 6 30 LS
    D Carlson, John - WAS 3 19 67 LS

    LW Huberdeau, Jonathan - FLA 4 6 78 LS
    G Mason, Steve - PHI 5 19 115 LS
    D Faulk, Justin - CAR 6 6 126 LS

    RW Mantha, Anthony - DET 7 19 163 LS
    C Reinhart, Sam - BUF 8 6 174 LS
    C Couturier, Sean - PHI 9 19 211 LS
    C Grigorenko, Mikhail - COL 10 6 222 LS
    RW Virtanen, Jake - VAN 11 19 259 LS

    LW Panarin, Artemi - CHI 12 6 270 LS
    LW Beleskey, Matt - BOS 13 19 307 LS
    F Hodgson, Cody - NAS 14 6 318 LS

    RW Meier, Timo - SJ 15 19 355 LS
    D Voynov, Slava - LA 16 6 366 LS
    F Karlsson, Melker - SJ 17 19 403 LS
    D Matheson, Michael - FLA 18 6 414 LS
    C Lander, Anton - EDM 19 19 451 LS

    D de Haan, Calvin - NYI 20 6 462 LS

    There's a LOT of youth in this list.
    Not much proven veterans.
    And some crap-shoots than might pan out great, might not pan out at all.
    At the end of any year, the team that wins is going to have guys that best outperformed their draft spot best (i.e. "Value") + Injury Luck + Trade-Boost-Value

    Based on the team talent alone (no trades, no good or bad injury luck), I'll forecast:
    Year 1: 20th
    Year 2: 14th
    Year 3: 9th

    Ohhh ohhh!! Do me now Pengwin!! Do me!!

    I'd agree with what Pengwin said.
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    I think my team may beat the Voodoo.... J/K..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Sucks! I think it sucks!

    haha.

    Had to chime in
    Couldn't have said it better......lol
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    I am looking forward to the "Voodoo" vs. "Red Lights" matchup.....................shit happens!
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