Patrick Sharp: the price is sky high.....

[Savvy1982]

It's gonna take a LOT of value to dump Bickell's contract.

That's Derek Engelland ugly, but without the Flames' cap space...

[hawkdog]

ya the big contract for Callahan something i didn't consider. Good point.

[Dennis4022]

I think THAT is what Chicago could get for one-year of Sharp... a single late-first rounder.
They only get the late 2nd rounder if they take back a slightly overpaid player.

Sharp is signed for two more years.

[rataylor22]

This comparison doesn't work for Chicago though.
In return for MSL, Tampa Bay took back a BIG contract: 5+ YEARS of Callahan at $5.8m cap hit.
(I know Callahan was a heart&soul guy for the ol' Rangers... but he ain't worth that contract. I'd argue that Callahan is viewed by NHL GMs as a negative per-year value at that price. Cally more like a $5m guy - even value.)

If you are putting "value" on each piece in that trade... you have to consider it might be like this:
NYR late 1st round pick: 3/10
NYR late 2nd round pick: 1/10
Callahan: -1/10 (bad, long contract)
for
MSL: 3/10 (for 1.25 seasons)

Chicago can't do this (take back salary), so it's not comparable.

So, if we do this for Sharp... but realize CHI can't take value... here's what we get:

Late 1st round pick: 3/10
for
Sharp: 3/10 (as a potential one-year rental of a player)

I think THAT is what Chicago could get for one-year of Sharp... a single late-first rounder.
They only get the late 2nd rounder if they take back a slightly overpaid player.

Now... you can call this "a top six player + draft picks" for Sharp.
But it's really about the contract that goes along with that top six player... and CHI simply can't take a top six player salary back.


Here's the bigger problem for Chicago... Brian Bickell.
Bickell's 3 years at $4.5m makes him a massive NEGATIVE value.

Let's start again:
3/10: Sharp at $5.9m hit for one-year
-3/10: Bickell at $4.0m hit for three-years
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zilch


Since CHI can't even give Bickell away... they need somebody to take him away.
And they may have to tandem gift away Sharp w/Bickell just to move out Bickell.

Callahan was an expiring contract. Tampa re-signed him following the trade.

[Slug]

Callahan was an expiring contract. Tampa re-signed him following the trade.

Yep and that was one of the main reasons the trade happened. The Rangers weren't willing to give Callahan that contract so they had to move him.

[rataylor22]

Yep and that was one of the main reasons the trade happened. The Rangers weren't willing to give Callahan that contract so they had to move him.

Yea, I'm just saying Tampa didn't really take back a big contract, they took back an expiring one and chose to give him a new contract.

[Daydream Nation]

For those of you discussing Bickell, his cap hit is 4 M not 4.5. And Sharp will be easy to trade compared to Bickell. Either salary retention or a sweetener will be needed to move him.

[deantime419]

Haven't heard what teams have offered up yet for Sharp but I'll take a guess:
Grabner (salary retained) + de haan.
Spaling + cole + pick
Howden + petrovic + pick
rask+nash/nestrasil + pick

Some of those are significantly better than others.

[Daydream Nation]

Haven't heard what teams have offered up yet for Sharp but I'll take a guess:

Howden + petrovic + pick

Yes please.

[CHunter]

Dallas, Pittsburgh and Florida strongly in the hunt for Sharp....

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[Shake]

Apparently Boston and Montreal are the most aggressive in trying to work a deal for Sharp.

[rataylor22]

Bruins had to trade Dougie to load up for Sharp

[Pengwin7]

If my math is right (using gf)...

Boston is at a hit of $62.7 (not incl. Savard) with 10F/4D/1G.
They just signed McQ at about $2.7m... so $65m with 10F/5D/1G.
Spooner (RFA) & Connolly (RFA) not included.

They are still in trouble.
They need 4F/2D/1 back-up for $6m.
[Most teams carry 14F/7D/2G towards their cap*.]

I still don't see them fitting in Sharp.