View Poll Results: Which player do you want on your team for the next few years?

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  • Martin Hanzal

    2 20.00%
  • Dmitri Jaskin

    8 80.00%
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Thread: Hanzal vs Jaskin

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    Should I trade Martin Hanzal (C) for Dmitri Jaskin (LW/RW) and a late round draft pick?

    My Team:
    C: Logan Couture, Brandon Dubinsky (LW), Artem Anisimov, Martin Hanzal
    LW: Thomas Vanek (RW), Dustin Byfuglien (RW,D) , Lance Bouma (C, RW),
    RW: Jeff Carter (C), Brent Burns (D), Luke Glendening (C, LW)
    D: Nick Kronwall, Justin Braun, Hampus Lindholm, Jonas Brodin, Chris Tanev, Alex Petrovic
    G: Tuukka Rask, Darcy Kuemper

    UFAs that may re-sign with my team
    C: Mark Letestu
    LW: Andrew Desjardins
    RW: Justin Williams
    D: Francois Beauchemin, Barret Jackman
    G: Devan Dubnyk

    Relevant Prospects:
    F: Alex Burmistrov, Mark McNeill, Tyler Graovac
    D: Christian Folin
    G: Nathan Lieuwen

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    I rather have Hanzal. However, Back surgery. Yikes!
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    Does FO% matter enough to keep Hanzal over Jaskin? Hanzal is still entering his prime years, although he's hurt a bunch...If you need the cap space, then take Jaskin, but if you can afford it I think I'd keep Hanzal. I don't know the numbers, but I think Hanzal also gets more PP time? I'm not sure.

    If you run the numbers through Fantasy Hockey Geek, where does Hanzal's ranking come out? This could help play in the decision-making. I feel he'd be fairly highly ranked in your format, even with injuries?

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    I voted for Jaskin because I just can't stand the constant injuries with Hanzal. The guy is a beast in multicat leagues when he plays but what do you do about the 20 games he seems to miss every year? I also think that Jaskin is a very nice young comp for Hanzal. It will take him a few more years but I expect that in his prime he can become Hanzal without the injuries.

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    Hanzal is a decent enough depth player,... When he's NOT on the IR which isn't often enough.

    I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

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    Further trade discussions in the league in the original post might allow me to make the following changes to my team. I have included salaries for easy comparison. Remember stats are G, A, +/-, hits, blocked shots, takeaways, PP TOI, PK TOI.

    Give up
    Martin Hanzal $3.1M x 2 years
    Chris Tanev $4.45M x 5 years

    Receive
    Frans Nielsen $2.75M x 1 year (UFA after)
    Dmitri Jaskin $.895M x 1 year (RFA after)
    Brenden Dillon RFA

    Would this move make sense? My team should be one of the best again next season.

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    I like the new deal better than the Hanzal/Jaskin straight deal. With the peripherals, I don't think Dillon would be tremendously behind Tanev in terms of value and a lot cheaper too. Any shortcomings that Jaskin may have compared to Hanzel (if healthy) could also be negated by what will surely be a miserable +/- from Hanzel. I also think that the further along into the future, the more the trade falls in your favour due to Hanzel likely breaking down and Jaskin being the perfect replacement.

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    Jaskin for me.....Hanzal is a BAB.....
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    D: Korchinski (0.925M), Byram (3.85M), Burns (5.28M).

    G: Kochetkov (2M), Shesterkin (5,670M).

    Bench: E. Karlsson (10M), Lucius (0.925M), Edvinsson (0.89M), Askarov (0.925M), Quinn (0.86M), Berggren (0.925M), Stankoven (0.81M), Knight (4.5M), Mitchkov (TBD), Athanasiou (4.25M), Samsonov (3.55M), Klingberg (4.15M).

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    As long as the FOW% doesn't count for much, I like the Jaskin side better.
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    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
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    Jaskin could see a bigger role if St Louis truly is intent on moving some of their core.

    He was impressive playing 3rd line minutes and had pretty decent possession numbers. Could be the right mix for a breakout year. 55-60 points.

    If Oshie and Berglund get moved

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    Stone $9.5
    Svechnikov $7.7
    Debrincat $6.4
    Hall $6
    Meier $6
    Guentzel $6
    Ehlers $6
    Hertl $5.6
    Konecny $5.5
    Palat $5.3
    JT Miller $5.2
    Garland $4.9
    Kakko $.9
    Laff $.9


    Defense
    Josi $9
    Burns $8
    Letang $7.2
    Nurse $5.6
    Werenski $5
    Sergachev $4.8
    Fox $.9

    Goalies
    Shesterkin $5.6
    Ullmark $5
    Hart $3.9
    Blackwood $2.8


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    Thank you all for your opinions. I expected this most people to prefer Martin Hanzal in this thread but it turns out to be overwhelmingly in favor of Dmitri Jaskin.

    What does everyone expect in terms of points for Jaskin next season?

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    Update to this thread. I ended up making the following trades:

    1) Gave up Chris Tanev for Frans Nielsen (plus a 2017 pick if I lose Nielsen to UFA next summer)
    2) Gave up Martin Hanzal for Dmitri Jaskin and the 77th pick in this summer's entry draft

    How did I do?

    Team now looks like this:
    C: Dubinsky, Nielsen, Anisimov, Burmistrov (assuming he returns)
    LW: Couture, Vanek, Bouma,
    RW: Carter, Burns, Glendening, Jaskin
    D: Kronwall, Byfuglien, Brodin, Lindholm, Braun, Folin
    G: Rask, Kuemper

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