The League in London (20 Team Multi-Cat H2H $100 Dynasty League) - Season 11
... In memory of "The Net Detective"
C Pinto kDach Hayton Roy / Lowry Bjugstad Blueger Carrick
LW Lehkonen Knies kJohnson Greenway / Laferriere Reichel Luostarinen Kartye Grebyonkin Buchelnikov
RW Quinn Joseph Roslovic Chinakhov / Kakko Glass Brink O'Connor Holmberg Berggren Tuomaala
D Werenski Hronek Power Guhle McCabe Roy / Gudas Raddysh Pachal Evans Cormier
G Swayman / Hill Mrazek Ivanov Kokko
Absolutely his value has gone up since Calgary. He's lost some of his offense but greatly improved his defensive game. I know he continues to produce glaring mistakes here and there, but the majority of the time he is eating tough minutes and helping keep more pucks out of his teams net then his mistakes are allowing to go in.
Yes his contract hurts his value, but there was no choice for the Leafs really. At the time they still considered themselves a young team in contention and there was no way they could have replaced him, so they paid him what they had to. It was that or lose him to free agency where someone would have signed him to even more. I guarantee that many other teams would have handed out the same contract in the same situation. They were screwed.
And ya, I agree he'd be a great number 2 and would thrive behind a top defenseman like Doughty or Weber where he can focus more on his offense, but there aren't enough top guys like that to go around, so Phaneuf gets slotted in there. I don't think you can name 60 defensemen that bring more than Phaneuf, let alone 30. (EDIT: If you factor in cap hit, then I guess it gets murkier. Best defensemen per $? Quite a bit more subjective at that point though. It might be that I don't think the cap hit is as big a deal as it should be. Damn economics. Why can't we just stick to hockey?)
He doesn't get a fair assessment in Toronto being the hotbed that it is. His contract hurts his value, but he deserves more credit than he gets. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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Typical Eklund rumor:
"I'm hearing the Leafs may be willing to trade Phanuef, and some of the other 29 teams in the league are interested. If Phanuef is moved, I'm betting he will go to 1 of the other 29 teams".
He's awful, and doesn't know jack shit.
All fair points in and of themselves but many do not relate to his value. Why or how Toronto signed him to that contract is of no concern at this point.
If the Leafs eat cap then his value goes up substantially and that's a distinct possibility but at that point you're not trading 'Phaneuf' strictly speaking, you're trading 'Phaneuf + retained cap hit'.
I still think his value is more than what you give him credit for. I personally don't think the Leafs should need to retain much of his salary to make him appealing or useful to a team, but it sounds like I would be in the minority there. Wherever he ends up, I wouldn't be surprised if he begins to light it up and make it look like a horrible trade for Toronto. I get the feeling Toronto will likely end up in a poor light for this trade no matter how it shakes out, but part of that is everyone's love of piling on the Leafs as well.
Once Bobby Mack or D.Dreger announce the trade on TSN, then Kypreos will announce it a few minutes later on Sportsnet..
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Angus is my best friend at dobberhockey..
Apparently the latest is the Wings have backed off - not willing to meet the price the Leafs are asking for Dion.
“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: As of now, Wings feel price too high on Phaneuf. Won't go anywhere unless price drops.”
The League in London (20 Team Multi-Cat H2H $100 Dynasty League) - Season 11
... In memory of "The Net Detective"
C Pinto kDach Hayton Roy / Lowry Bjugstad Blueger Carrick
LW Lehkonen Knies kJohnson Greenway / Laferriere Reichel Luostarinen Kartye Grebyonkin Buchelnikov
RW Quinn Joseph Roslovic Chinakhov / Kakko Glass Brink O'Connor Holmberg Berggren Tuomaala
D Werenski Hronek Power Guhle McCabe Roy / Gudas Raddysh Pachal Evans Cormier
G Swayman / Hill Mrazek Ivanov Kokko
They just traded for Zidlicky, apparently. I guess that rules out Phaneuf to Red wings.
Yahoo! H2H, Daily Starts, Min 3 G starts/Week, Max 2 Pick Ups/Week.
1 Year,12 Team
G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%
2 C: JT Miller, Giroux
3 W: B. Tkatchuk, Toffoli, S. Reinhart
4 D: Hamilton, Heiskanen, Nurse, Sanheim
2 G: Venecek, Jarry
4 BN: Wilson, Nelson, Svechnikov, Barkov
2 IR: Meier
Detroit officially out. Besides Zidlicky deal, Holland tells Detroit Free Press "all done" per St. James
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My guess is the Zidicliky trade is the end of the Phaneuf rumours. Given the size and length of the contract plus the uncertainty surrounding the cap seems like a trade is more likely at the draft.
12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
NO IR
Ah well CRAP!