Where to draft McDavid in a new dynasty?

[fungchen3]

In a capleague i am totally with Pengwin there and draft him 2nd overall without any hesitation. But i am the gamble for youth type in cap leagues as well. So far it has always panned out for me.

Well a cap league is a whole different beast. Without a doubt you take McDavid on a rookie deal over 99% of guys with 6, 7 and 8+ mil hits.

I didn't see the OP specify that is was a cap scenario.

[Bazz]

I would take him #2 like Pengwin said. I would take Seguin #1.

[davidgoodburn]

My answer to thread:
Second overall.

If you are this high on McDavid wouldn't you have to bump him up to 1st overall? Would you rather have a 29 year old generational talent or an 18 year old generational talent?

[StuntMan12]

1st overall ...




bottom line

[austeane]

In a cap league, Crosby, Tavares is second and Seguin would be my top three, for sure. Crosby is Crosby, but Tavares makes 3 mil less and is only 24 and Seguin makes 5.75 mil until 2019, which is unbelievable.

After that, then you pay for Stamkos's goals, and OV/Malkin's goals/points.

If you are in a league of people of equal skill, you could make an argument for taking McDavid 4th, while planning on going for it in years two and three of the league. Depending on whether you count rookie bonuses in your cap, you could save 7 million dollars over Stamkos/OV/Malkin/Giroux while losing roughly 20 [times 2.5] points in his second year and 10 points in his third year.

Depending on the league setup, for the first year you don't go for it; depending on your league setup, you can trade cap space, take on expiring contracts, etc.

While it is dependant on league setup, having an extra 7 million dollars to work with is a game breaker in a competitive cap league. It is the difference between having

Stamkos has to be up there with goals being a part. OV/Malkin's contracts scare me a bit more in a Dynasty.

[austeane]

I expanded on my reasoning in my ramblings here.

[Big Baby]

My list, factoring in age mostly, thinking 3-5 years ahead

1.Crosby
2.Seguin
3.Giroux
4.Stamkos
5.McDavid
6.Tavares
7.Ovechkin
8.MacKinnon
9.Hall
10.Malkin

[Jouko-Pouko]

If you want McDavid, you have to draft him in the 1st round. I don't know if it's a good idea or not but someone will take him in the 1st round for sure.

In a salary cap league, McDavid deserves Top-5 consideration for sure.

[4horsemen]

McDavid is still putting up Crosby numbers in Jr, I repeat, McDavid is now putting up Crosby numbers in Jr!!

Crosby on his ELC clearly should have been the #1 draft in any capped league based on value alone. In many he probably wasn't but in retrospect he should have been. It doesn't matter if people outscore him in his first few years, the winning team in a capped league is the one that uses their cap most effectively. If McDavid can approximate what Crosby did then he's the #1 guy with a bullet.

[Avangard]

What I don't understand here is how can you take an unproven player, over one who will give you more points in the first three years ? I mean, if the proven one gives you 10-20 points more the first, 15 the second and 10 the third, that still accounts for a net profit that will even out what the guy can outscore for three years after no ? I mean, statistically, the proven asset, will, in let's say the coming 6 years have the same net production as the next wonder ?

I know the hype and value of a McDavid does it all, but we're here to win titles I guess.

Where would you class him in a ROTO draft ? Don't tell me ahead of Ovy please, I won't believe any of it.

[4horsemen]

What I don't understand here is how can you take an unproven player, over one who will give you more points in the first three years ? I mean, if the proven one gives you 10-20 points more the first, 15 the second and 10 the third, that still accounts for a net profit that will even out what the guy can outscore for three years after no ? I mean, statistically, the proven asset, will, in let's say the coming 6 years have the same net production as the next wonder ?

I know the hype and value of a McDavid does it all, but we're here to win titles I guess.

Where would you class him in a ROTO draft ? Don't tell me ahead of Ovy please, I won't believe any of it.

Capped leagues change everything. Many of the comments that have McDavid 1st or 2nd refer to capped leagues so is your question for a capped league or a standard league?

[Avangard]

Capped leagues change everything. Many of the comments that have McDavid 1st or 2nd refer to capped leagues so is your question for a capped league or a standard league?

My question was for standard leagues. Thanks.

[4horsemen]

My question was for standard leagues. Thanks.

In that case I'd have to slot him in somewhere after Crosby

[LPL]

I take him first overall. Crosby had 102 points in first year, 120 in next year. Maybe it was a different league then, but if this guy is "The Next One", really he's worth the risk short term, and really no risk long term.

[LPL]

I would pick McDavid First overall. Crosby had 102 pts as an 18 year old rookie. 120 as a Vet 19 year old. If this kid is "The Next One", then he's worth the risk. The risk short term is worth it, and the risk long term in very min.