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    Point projections by the end of the season?

    I personally am not sure on any particular number assignments (not sure how to model high-upside, no/little-historical data players) but I would order the 3 as such:

    Forsberg
    Nelson
    Kucherov

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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    I have Kucherov above Nelson but I agree that Forsberg outpoints both

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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    I would rank them like this.

    Forsberg
    Kucherov
    Nelson

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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    Seems to be a tiny consensus that Kucherov > Nelson.

    Any reasons why? Forsberg is a beaut btw
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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    this year i'm liking Forsberg

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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    Quote Originally Posted by LakeSoup View Post
    Seems to be a tiny consensus that Kucherov > Nelson.

    Any reasons why? Forsberg is a beaut btw
    I just think Kucherov is an elite talent on his own. He has succeeded at every level of hockey he's played, and now he's doing it in the NHL. Just a really skilled player. His shots on goal per 60 mins is like top 10 in the league so it seems sustainable. Nelsons shooting pct is 20% which will regress, whereas Kucherov is at 14% which will probably only go down a few percentage points.

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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    Quote Originally Posted by pmorrow136 View Post
    I just think Kucherov is an elite talent on his own. He has succeeded at every level of hockey he's played, and now he's doing it in the NHL. Just a really skilled player. His shots on goal per 60 mins is like top 10 in the league so it seems sustainable. Nelsons shooting pct is 20% which will regress, whereas Kucherov is at 14% which will probably only go down a few percentage points.
    Thank for that analysis! I hadn't looked at their SH%. I think I'll try to sell high on Nelson then, hopefully package him with someone else for something good.

    Kucherov's face value probably isn't high enough to the casual manager to justify a return that offsets his underlying potential.
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    Varlamov -> Lucic (Jan 20)
    E. Staal -> Byfuglien (Jan 20)
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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    The worry for me with Nelson is keeping that spot on the PP as once he does I think he regresses pretty quickly - definite sell high!

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    Default Re: Kucherov vs Nelson vs Forsberg

    Forsberg


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    Kucherov
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    Nelson

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