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    Owner in my league messaged me saying he wants Tavares, asked if I was interested in Parise... I replied for him to send something over to start and his initial offer is Parise/Wheeler for Tavares.

    Don't like this trade at all as I'd have to drop somebody to make room for Wheeler. Wondering if there is a good counter I can come up with here.

    His team is:
    F- Couture, Wheeler, Nelson, Spezza, Kessel, Getzlaf, Neal, Giroux, Parise
    D - Kronwall, Fowler, Yandle, Ekman-Larsson, Faulk
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    Keep Tavares. As you said you would have to drop someone if you accepted the offer. So the deal is really Parise/Wheeler for Tavares+drop. Even if you drop someone like Eberle or Staal you lose the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake Joseph View Post
    Owner in my league messaged me saying he wants Tavares, asked if I was interested in Parise... I replied for him to send something over to start and his initial offer is Parise/Wheeler for Tavares.

    Don't like this trade at all as I'd have to drop somebody to make room for Wheeler. Wondering if there is a good counter I can come up with here.

    His team is:
    F- Couture, Wheeler, Nelson, Spezza, Kessel, Getzlaf, Neal, Giroux, Parise
    D - Kronwall, Fowler, Yandle, Ekman-Larsson, Faulk
    G- Miller, Bishop, Pavelec
    Don't feel the need to counter just because you received an offer. If you have a specific goal in mind then fine, go for it. But I wouldn't just try to find a fit for the sake of finding a fit.

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    All trade discussions for Tavares should start with Giroux.

    He probably won't do that, so maybe you can get something with Kessel plus Neal for Tavares and a scrub. If it's the league in your sig, you get more points for goals. Kessel and Neal are worth a lot in a league that rewards goals.

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    Well unless he is willing to send you Giroux for Tavares straight up (about the only player I would want for Tavares 1 for 1) you are going to have to look at multiple players from him, which will force you to drop someone. If you don't want to do that, then this is a non-issue. Keep Tavares.

    I wouldn't want Parise in any offer for my Tavares.

    Any counter you come up with that involves multiple players coming in will force you to drop someone like Eberle, who is probably one of your weaker forwards. You have to look at who you would bring in that forces you to drop Eberle and make sure the drop in points between Tavares and Eberle offsets the players you are bringing in, say a Getzlaf and Couture or Wheeler. Thats about the only way I could see this working for you, and then you have to wonder if he would do Getz with a Couture/Wheeler for Tavares anyway. I know I wouldn't do it if I were him.

    Tough choices for both sides but I guess it depends on how bad he wants Tavares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake Joseph View Post
    Owner in my league messaged me saying he wants Tavares, asked if I was interested in Parise... I replied for him to send something over to start and his initial offer is Parise/Wheeler for Tavares.

    Don't like this trade at all as I'd have to drop somebody to make room for Wheeler. Wondering if there is a good counter I can come up with here.

    His team is:
    F- Couture, Wheeler, Nelson, Spezza, Kessel, Getzlaf, Neal, Giroux, Parise
    D - Kronwall, Fowler, Yandle, Ekman-Larsson, Faulk
    G- Miller, Bishop, Pavelec
    He has a very good team. He is offering you his worst or second worst forward + plus a guy who just got concussed for a top 5 forward. Without the concussion, I would entertain a trade offer including Parise for Tavares, but with the concussion and the rest of his team, I am not sure I would. This GM isn't serious about getting Tavares. If he were, I would expect that his trade offer would have included Kessel. Make sure he knows that this isn't a 2-1 trade because you have to drop someone to make it happen so all trade offers should be for Tavares + Eberle or Johansen. This forces him to think in terms of 2-2.
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    I would not move Tavares. No reason to want Parise in such a deal. Not sure what your motiviation would be to move Tavares. If he's asking you about Parise in this deal then he's trying to upgrade himself and downgrade you. Not sure that a deal can be made here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakedown View Post
    I would not move Tavares. No reason to want Parise in such a deal. Not sure what your motiviation would be to move Tavares. If he's asking you about Parise in this deal then he's trying to upgrade himself and downgrade you. Not sure that a deal can be made here.
    I have no motivation to move him at all, especially not with this offer. I'm pretty sure with most trade offers the person offering is looking to upgrade. My main question was if anyone thought a decent counter that benefits me could be made, as in a 7-team league rosters are stacked and there is more possibility for trade potential. But you could be right in that there is simply no deal to be made here, which I'm totally fine with.
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    Kessel and Getzlaf for Taveres and E.Staal would be about the only fair deal...
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