Kesler & Marchand for ? - REP FOR HELP!!!

[L2TG]

Hey boys,

I currently sit 1st in a 12-team rotisserie style league (see below for league settings and team). I'm putting the finishing touches on my squad and just needed some help on the my most recent project. I need help in the SHP and PIM department. Everywhere else I am sitting pretty... I know SHP is a useless category and hard to stream, however, there are players that are more likely to get SHP than others. Therefore, I found a team that is 2nd last place and has told me they are willing to move players. He has both Kesler + Marchand who I feel are perfect candidates to strengthen my team. Both of these guys are known to produce PIM and get many SH opportunities. Kesler also has some nice PP value... while Marchand can produce help in the +/- department. I'd move my Franson who is currently my 5th D-man and Ladd who is my 3rd LW. My question to you guys is... what is a fair offer for these guys in terms of picks? So my offer would basically be Franson + Ladd + Picks for Kesler + Marchand. Also, forget to mention that I made a trade earlier this season which snagged me a 5th round pick for MacArthur... So I have an extra 5th along with all my picks.

This league is a Keep 4 and there are 12 teams... here are some examples of the type of players that went in various rounds:

1st Round - Bishop, Sharp, Hedman
2nd Round - Pacioretty, Marleau, Howard
3rd Round - Okposo, Letang, Elliott, Kesler
4th Round - Voracek, Thornton, Marchand
5th Round - Kronwall, Krug, Wheeler

So as you can see this GM took Marchand & Kesler in the 3rd and 4th round respectively... IMO way to early. That being said what would you guys offer? I feel a 5th + 4th would including the guys I listed would suffice... Or maybe just a 2nd straight up? I was also wondering if Marchand is worth the UPGRADE on Ladd... Ladd should get way more PPP but Marchand should edge him in SHP, PIM, and +/-. Thoughts? Thanks boys!!

[Hoopo]

I'm putting myself in this guy's shoes and I don't see him biting at Franson and Ladd and a 4th and 5th for Kesler and Marchand. I have a feeling you're going to have to offer more than a second for this to go through, and you have to ask yourself if that's going to be worth it for you.

[Sulla]

As above I wouldn't accept it but it depends on the GM - a second would probably do it but you could be sneaky and see if he will take Harding...

[GoNucks]

I own both Kesler & Marchand in my league and no way I would trade them for that with those categories. Multi cat 50+ point guys are rare and very valuable.