Hornqvist vs elite D

[forumname]

Weber is insanely valuable in your league, probably 2nd to Ovechkin (fhg wise).

I would try to get him to include an upgrade somewhere, but I would do it either way.

[philly_fan]

Not sure I would do that. Hornqvist could easily be your 3rd best F going forward. I think Sharp or Nash might be the big name guy you want to move to get a stud D. Your D doesn't look bad and I think you could get a useful upgrade without losing Horny who should be ridiculous in your format while sniping Crosby dimes.

Thanks. This is sort of my thinking. In a vacuum, are you thinking it might be something like Hornqvist >/= to Weber? Seems to be a lot of mixed input on here, but it looks like you are thinking similar to what my initial thought was.

[Magicstew]

Not sure I would do that. Hornqvist could easily be your 3rd best F going forward. I think Sharp or Nash might be the big name guy you want to move to get a stud D. Your D doesn't look bad and I think you could get a useful upgrade without losing Horny who should be ridiculous in your format while sniping Crosby dimes.

Listen to DG, if you can get past avatar, see if he would look at someone else or 2 for Weber - Nash is a sexy pick right now.

[jcairns]

Listen to DG, if you can get past avatar, see if he would look at someone else or 2 for Weber - Nash is a sexy pick right now.

It's definitely tough, but I don't know. I am leaning toward agreeing and thinking that Hornqvist is Neal 2.0, and I'd prefer him slightly to Weber. Obviously my uncertain advice doesn't help the OP much though, haha.

[Hoopo]

I would take Weber for Hornqvist. I don't feel as though your D is as strong as you seem to, and Weber is really a top-3 defenseman. Going forward you keep Weber and Nyquist, drop EJ or Phaneuf.

[Pengwin7]

Weber for me.

In category play, people always have to wrap their heads around the fact that a category is a category.

Among skaters, perhaps the following are benchmarks worth of a "category score of 10/10"
Goals: 50
Assists: 50
SOG: 300
Hits: 200
Blocks: 150

Here, if Hornqvist puts up 40G/40A/240SOG/60 HIT/15 BLK... he's worth 8 + 8 + 8 + 3 + 1 = 28/50.
Here, if Weber puts up 18G/30A/240SOG/160 HIT/150 BLK... he's worth 3 + 6 + 8 + 8 + 10 = 35/50.

I like Hornqvist... but I think his best value lies in pools that also count +/- and PPP... where he'll be gold.
In this format, I'd love me some Shea "All-Cats" Weber.

[Doug Glatt]

P7, I think your projection for Hornqvist's SOG is too low. He is on pace for over 350 SOG at this point and I expect him to get there based on his shot totals in Nashville playing on a defensive-minded team.

For the OP, this is a very difficult question. IF you did this deal no one could blame you, Weber is a stallion. I just think you should look into some other trade options that don't involve moving Horny for a D before you commit to this particular deal.

[Pengwin7]

P7, I think your projection for Hornqvist's SOG is too low.

You are correct.
Closer to 350 SOG.
Well... somebody can do the revised math.

[gfunkb7]

Too low? He's also on pace with 114 points and 57 goals. Give me a pessimestic/realistic value over hyperflated one.

With that being said, I would try to move another guy along that carries a big name to make for the lack Hornqvist brings and make a 2vs2. (Ex: hossa hornqvist vs wheeler weber)