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    Default Starting goalie Matrix - How to manage GP

    Hey all,

    I need some strategic advice on playing goalies.


    Our league has 2 starting goalie positions, with a maximum of 150 starts.


    You can sub in your goalies as much as you want, but if you get 150 starts for the year.


    Goalies pts are the following:
    win - 2pts
    shut out - 3 pts (so shut out win is 5pts)
    OTL - 1 pts
    shut out OTL - 4pts (3pts so + 1pt otl)


    Question is: When you have 2 goalies in your lineup, would it be better to start both goalies and guarantee yourself some points, or pick the goalie that has a better chance of winning?


    Eg: My goalies are: Rask, Schneider, Luongo, Lehner, Jones
    1-Rask, I will always start - strong team, good odds of getting a W; will get ~55-60 starts
    2-Jones, I will probably always start - strong team, will likely face weaker teams, good odds of getting a W; will get ~ 20-25starts
    Others are less clear:
    What do I do when Schneider, Luongo and Lehner face each other?


    If I start both goalies:
    Outcomes are:
    2 games played: I gain a minimum of 2pts, maximum 9pts
    1 win / 1 Loss = 2 pts + 0 pts = 2pts
    1 win / 1 OTL = 2 pts + 1 pt = 3 pts
    1 sow / 1 L = 2pts (2) + 3pts (so) + 0 pt = 5 pts
    1 sow / 1 OTL = 2pts (w) + 3pts (so) + 1pt (otl) = 6pts
    1 sow / 1 OTL in shoot out = 2pts (w) + 3pts (so) + 1pt (otl) + 3pts (so) = 9pts


    If I start a single goalie at 2 different occasions:
    Outcomes are: min: 0pts, max: 10pts

    All of the above and
    2 Loss = 0 pts
    2 shut out = 10 pts


    My thought is to pick the stronger team/goalie based on odds because if they are projected to make more than 1pt/GP for your team, than it makes sense to start just one. Eg Rask projected ~60gp, ~38w with 5 so, 22L with 5 OTL. That equates to 96pts, with is 1.6pt per GP.


    If your combined goalies' pts/GP is < 1pt/GP, then start both:
    eg: If Reimer (0.8pt/GP) and Neuvirth (0.7pt/GP) face each other, then it would make sense to start both and guarantee yourself 1pt/GP.

    But, I need someone smarter than me to figure out this matrix and offer input on how to manage goalie starts!


    thanks
    11 team dynasty league - POINTS ONLY
    30 player roster
    18 starter slots:
    12 Forwards - Max 92 GP per foward slot
    Kane, Seguin, Kuznetsov, Eichel, Mack, Brassard, Stone, Pavelski, Stepan, Scheifele, Fabbri, Lucic, Draisaitl, Kreider, Skinner, Kadri, Horvat

    6 Defensemen - Max 92 GP per defense slot
    Klingberg, OEL, Ghost, Pietriangelo, Barrie, Hamilton, Stralman, Ceci,

    2 Goalies - Max 75 GP per slot
    Bishop, Gibson, Mason, Raanta, Dominigue
    12 Bench slots: free mix of F, D, G

    G = 1 pt, A = 1 pt
    W = 2 pts, SO = 3 pts (Shut out win = 5 pts)

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    Default Re: Starting goalie Matrix - How to manage GP

    Quote Originally Posted by 8HealthyScratches View Post
    Question is: When you have 2 goalies in your lineup, would it be better to start both goalies and guarantee yourself some points, or pick the goalie that has a better chance of winning?[/FONT]
    To start the season, I'd say... Start them Both.
    You never know when one of your goalies will get injured.
    Pace above GP for goalies to start the season in case an injury happens.
    If one of your goalies goes down, you will be HAPPY that you are above GP pace and do not feel forced to start some waiver garbage.
    (This happened to me last year and I started playing James Reimer... yuck, yuck, yuck.)

    Somewhere around the 1/4 point to 1/2 point in the season, you should take a look at standings.
    Check each team's WIN PER GP rate.
    This is important.

    If you are well out in front, good W/gp, then just start both goalies and take the sure win.
    If you are behind in W/gp then you need to take some risks and "guess right" to make up pace in W/gp. This is a case where you'd try to pick the right goalie.

    Max GP ROTO is all about:
    1. Stats per Game Played
    2. Getting to your Max GP
    3. Evaluating how to move in Standings Categories and maximize each cat standing spot.

    Teams that focus on their player production per game... do well.

    Good luck.

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