Reply With QuoteDespite the fact that I love Toews, I really feel Kunitz will outpoint Toews this year.
Kunitz for Toews
Who wins this trade in a Points only one-year league (G, A)?
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G, A, P, +/-, PPP, SOG, Hit, FW, GWG
W, SV, GAA, SV%, SO
10 Teams
3C, 3RW, 3LW, 4D, 2 Util, 2G, 4 BN
C: Matthews, Mackinnon, Pettersson
LW: B Tkachuk, Giroux, Svechnikov
RW: Boeser, Meier, Wilson
D: E Karlsson, Hamilton, Q Hughes, Trouba
Util: O'Reilly, J Staal
G: Gibson, Halak, Anderson, Francouz, Georgiev, Merzlikins
Despite the fact that I love Toews, I really feel Kunitz will outpoint Toews this year.
1-Year 12-team H2H: G/A/+-/PIM/PPP/SOG/SH%/FW/HIT/BLK GS/W/GAA/SV/SV%/SHO
C: Giroux, Backstrom, Hanzal, Ribeiro
LW: Nash, Ladd
RW: Wheeler, Vrbata, Hornqvist
D: Keith, Streit, Franson, Gardiner
G: Lunquist, Mason, Luongo
IR: Stepan
In a one year league, it would probably be a good deal to get Kunitz. But I'm too stubborn and would just play it out with Toews.
id also just keep toews.
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4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
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As much as Kunitz is on fire, Toews is still close to a point per game. Going forward (ignoring what's already done), I'd feel more confident in trusting Toews to maintain around a PPG pace and Kunitz settling in a bit below it.
Kunitz could prove me wrong though.
I'd take Kunitz. Playing with Crosby will probably keep getting him points.
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I really think Kunitz will keep the points up until end of season.
One yaer = Kunitz for me.
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Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
Points only:
Forwards & Dmen: goal (1), assist (1)
Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
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As much as I love Toews, in a one-year (especially THIS year) I go with Kunitz. As long as Crosby is healthy, I expect Kunitz to keep piling up points.
10th year Keeper League, Fantrax
14 teams, H2H, keep 10, daily starts
G (3), A (2), +/- (1), PIM (0.1), PPP (1), FOW (0.1), FOL (-0.1), BLK (0.5), HAT (3), W (5), SO (3), SV (0.1), GA (-0.5)
C (3) - Schmaltz (LW, RW), Mercer (RW), Norris (IR), Domi (LW), T. Johnson (RW), Nosek (LW)
LW (3) - Keller (RW), Hagel, McCann (C), Zacha (LW), Kubalik (RW), N. Foligno (IR)
RW (3) - Fiala (LW), Vilardi (C), Ehlers (LW), Kakko
D (4) - Theodore, Orlov, Grzelcyk, T. van Riemsdyk, Clifton, Skjei, Weegar
Util (1)
G (1) - Montembault, Allen, Halak
Kunitz has a 1.38 PPG pace which puts him for 114 points over 82 games. So put me in the camp that doesn't believe Kunitz will keep up his current scoring pace. In fact, I am willing to bet a large sum of money on it. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if he stayed slightly below a PPG pace for the rest of the year. Don't really think Toews can do much better but he should closely match that. To me it's a wash but I'd probably take Toews.
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in a one year i would actually hold what i had no matter which player it was
i wouldnt want to trade away kunitz and risk that he does keep it up and i wouldnt want to trade away toews and risk that kunitz hits a wall
Going forward I'd take Toews without a doubt.
I'm biased, I have both. But I was going to point out exactly what VincentVega mentioned about this output over the past 'full season' ... it's a solid pace.
Can't really lose with either, but based on this season I'd say Kunitz.
12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10
F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
IR: Kane, Svechnikov
Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)
Ill take Toews without question as well
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I'd go for Kunitz. Toews is a great all-around player but Kunitz simply has a better situation to put up points. Toews has never been a PPG player once in his career, he's always just below. Even if Kunitz' pace slows down, he'll probably at-worst match was Toews does, and at best he could keep his insane 100+ point pace. With Crosby on his line he's pretty much guaranteed to keep racking them up. It's entirely dependent on his line mates and PP time, but I don't see either of those changing.
What I would try to do, is get a little more than just Kunitz in return. The name value Toews brings might be enough to get an additional upgrade somewhere else.
Kunitz is playing way over his head right now.
It's not like this is the first time he's played with Crosby... they were on the same line in 2010-11 as well, and that season he posted 48 points in 66 games.
If we're talking about the rest of this season (ie: the remaining 20 games or so), then perhaps you can make the argument that he'll ride the hot streak (I still wouldn't bet on it), but over the course of a full season there's no way he'll match Toews.
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