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    Default PK Subban+John Carlson+Tyler Myers...

    for my Duncan Keith+Alex Edler+Cam Fowler

    This is a points only keeper league. I don't think I want to move Fowler, but am willing to flip Keith and Edler for Subban and Carlson.

    Subban is money in the bank and Carlson seems to have started to find his scoring touch.

    On the other side of the coin, Edler (who I just picked up today in a separate deal.

    My current d lineup includes:

    Keith
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    C. Fowler
    Z. Bogosian

    Would you guys stand pat with edler and keith or would you flip them for subban and carlson? I will protect four dmen at the end of the season. Can you tell I have a thing for the young studs on d? LOL.

    Thanks everyone.

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    In a points only, I don't do this deal.

    I get that you'd love to have Subban as a Habs' fan. However, Edler is the unquestioned PP QB on an outstanding Vancouver team. Only edge Subban has on him is PIMS, which you don't count in your league.

    Duncan Keith has had a slow start, but again...unquestioned PP QB on a potent offence. There's a lot of hype around Carlson and he's a great all-round defenceman. I owned him for two years, and got tired of watching Green and Wideman get all the top PP minutes. Wideman is gone, but I don't see Carlson supplanting Green any time soon.

    Both Fowler and Myers have been disappointing this year, but I'd still take Fowler in a points only keeper.

    So, your trade: Edler>Subban
    Keith>Carlson
    Fowler>Myers

    Find another way to get Subban.
    10-team Keeper. Everyone keeps 12 + 1 G + 3 "young keepers" (players with less than 164 NHL games played), and 1G. Points for G (2), A (2), PIM (.2), Hit (.2), Blk (.2) SHP(1), W(4), SO(8) Must dress 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G

    C - Crosby, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Eichel, Johansen
    LW - E. Kane, Drouin, Schenn, Miller, Foligno, Zucker
    RW - Wheeler, Stone, Lindholm, Oshie, Tolvanen
    D - Karlsson, Carlson, Dumba, Nurse, Ceci, Pionk, Larsson, Montour
    G - Murray, Quick, Koskinen, Blackwood, Georgiev

    Minors - Turcotte, Bouchard, Kaprizov

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    Don't do that deal. Right now and for the next couple years, Edler and Keith will be better than Subban and Carlson. Plus, Myers is irrelevant in points only leagues now that his role has switched in Buffalo.
    10 Team, 27 Player (9 Fwds, 6 D-men, 2 Goalies, 10 Taxi Spots), Points Only Keeper League

    Fwds: Malkin, Stamkos, Toews, Kessel, Benn, Elias, Kunitz, Roy, Berglund, Ennis, Stepan, Purcell, Tanguay, Ladd, Bennett
    D-Men: Campbell, Enstrom, Byfuglien, Goligoski, Del Zotto, Visnovsky, Hamhuis, Souray, Brodin
    Goalies: Miller, Rinne, Ward, Crawford

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    In a points only, I don't do this deal.

    Find another way to get Subban.
    These are the only two sentences you need to focus on

    Excellent rationale Achilles, great breakdown.

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    thanks guys, i have to use my head and not my heart.

    i love the idea of having subban, but i agree with you both, edler and keith are potent point producers...

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    Just for comparison, here's how I valued Edler when I had him in my league.

    I traded him and Patches for ....

    Loui Eriksson and a 2nd 2013

    I already had Subban, Byfuglien, Goli and Shatty at that point though so it was easier for me as a Nucks fan to "let him go"
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    You could offer Keith for him straight up (even Edler if you want). All 3 players are so close...and if you really want Subban, it isn't a bad trade. It's just Edler and Keith are better than Subban and Carlson.

    Subban straight for Keith....nothing wrong with that at all. I'd give it a shot if I were a MTL fan.
    10-team Keeper. Everyone keeps 12 + 1 G + 3 "young keepers" (players with less than 164 NHL games played), and 1G. Points for G (2), A (2), PIM (.2), Hit (.2), Blk (.2) SHP(1), W(4), SO(8) Must dress 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G

    C - Crosby, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Eichel, Johansen
    LW - E. Kane, Drouin, Schenn, Miller, Foligno, Zucker
    RW - Wheeler, Stone, Lindholm, Oshie, Tolvanen
    D - Karlsson, Carlson, Dumba, Nurse, Ceci, Pionk, Larsson, Montour
    G - Murray, Quick, Koskinen, Blackwood, Georgiev

    Minors - Turcotte, Bouchard, Kaprizov

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    thanks for the quick responses guys...

    i sent him my decline to the offer.

    Back to the drawing board

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