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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    Straight points keeper. Which two would you want?

    Thornton
    Nash

    St. Louis
    Savard

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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    St-Louis and Savard easily...I dont think Nash will ever be a 90+ pt player

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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    Depends on the rest of your team. Probably Joe and Nash though.

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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    Depends on the rest of your team. Probably Joe and Nash though.

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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    I\'ll assume position doesn\'t matter and these predictions are for the players going forward since its a keeper:

    Thornton: 105-110 upside 125
    Nash: 70-75 upside 85 (he\'s having a career year and with Brassard and Vorachek coming up the pipe I can see him get 85 but I still don\'t see him as a 90+ guy)



    St. Louis: 95-100 upside 105
    Savard: 90-95 upside 100 (I think Bos will make a move for Hossa in the offseason)

    JT + Nash: 175-185 upside 210
    Savard + St.Louis: 185-195 upside 205

    If your league doesnt avard a bonus for goals go for St.Louis and Savard. They are the safer bet and I think they are the better dual for years to come.
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    Start: 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 1Utl, 1G
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    LW:Heatley,Morrow,Sullivan,Tambellini,Bissonnette, Pierro-Zabotel
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    D:EJ,Ehrhoff,Hjalmarsson,Babchuk,Commodore
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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    I agree with almost everything that Crazynuck has here except that I think Savard (30) and St. Louis (32) will begin to decline sooner than Nash (23) and Thornton (28). Depending on the length of your league I might be tempted to go with Nash and Thornton. I don\'t think you can lose either way
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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    Cnuck I think your shortchanging Joe, he\'s averaged 112pts over this year and the last 2, and this year\'s 97 pt pace is after his entire supporting cast fell apart. I rate him as 112 with a very attainable 130 upside.

    St Louis is aging (32 to Joe\'s 28) and his team is on a serious downswing. I don\'t see his breaking 100 ever again and I\'d average him around 90 (what he\'s on pace for this year). On a bad year I can see him getting as low as 75 points whereas I doubt Joe will have a worse year than this 97pt one in the foreseeable future.

    Look at their PPG since their respective \'breakout\' years, Joe is 1.28 while St. Louis is 1.06.

    Also I like Nash

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    Default Joe and Nash or St.Louis and Savard?

    JT is the best player in the deal but Nash is the deal killer. This guy is a scorer but he doesn\'t put up enough points. Its nice to get the younger players in a keeper but you can not always base a decision on age. Its not like Savard and St.Louis are Sakic and Sundin. They have another 5 years left in them. Ride them for 2 years and getthe max out of them and then trade them for some youth. Thats the way I run my keeper. Get players at their peak, ride them and get rid of them before they go on the decline. St.Louis and Savard are not on the decline.
    Either way you don\'t lose much on the deal.
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    G A +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV
    Start: 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 1Utl, 1G
    C:Savard,Filpulla,Arnott,Ott,Boyd,Weight,Rupp
    LW:Heatley,Morrow,Sullivan,Tambellini,Bissonnette, Pierro-Zabotel
    RW: Hemsky,Backes,Orr,Tikhonov,Artyukhin,Ortmeyer
    D:EJ,Ehrhoff,Hjalmarsson,Babchuk,Commodore
    G: M.A.Fleury,Deslauriers,Koskinen,Monnino

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