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    The offers are brewing. I\'ve recently discovered after winning 2of3 years in this pool that closers are very expendible and NOT worth keeping vs a good producing player at another position. What I was doing was riding 1 closer (the best) paplebon alone of 9 pitchers dressed. Problem is, i really wasn\'t winning the closer save category much at all...but dominating the INN\'s, K\'s wins category. There are only 4-5 closers kept in a 16 team keeper league so lots to draft on draft day. SO NOW for my trade options.

    to a redsox fan.
    Paplebon and Harang 6th round pick
    for
    his Kemp and lee

    he may counter with
    paps and harang 8th
    for
    ellsbury and lee (I could insert Mclouth instead of ellsbury)

    Now my new interest has come from Adrian Gonzalez. There are no 1st baseman left to draft really. (blalock,laroche,garko,tracy etc)

    paplebon for Agonz would do it.

    which do you like in order...good explanations deserve Karma and u will get when reloaded!!
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    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    I\'m not sure what you\'re asking exactly. Gonzo for Papelbon is a fair deal - you get a 30/100 guy in return seems like a no brainer to me!

    In order:
    Adrian Gonzalez
    Matt Kemp
    Nate McLouth
    Jacoby Ellsbury
    Keeper League:

    F) N.Backstrom, E.Malkin, V.Lecavalier, P.Mueller, A.Mcdonald, B.Boyes, A.Hemsky, S.Horcoff, K.Turris, D.Jeffrey, M.Perreault, C.O'Reilly, S.Upshall, M.Erat, S.Gagne, D.Legwand D) S.Souray, M.Streit, A.Babchuk, T.Gilbert, I.Cole, J.Hillen, M.Methot G) B.Elliott, S.Varlamov, C.Ward, J.Reimer P) N.Kadri, E.Kuznetsov, S.Shirokov, V.Tarasenko, J.Blum, OEL, J.Moore, O.Pavelec

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    yeah, thats pretty much what I\'m asking...a ranking and for you to tell me its a no brainer I should do it...that little shove. I can\'t help but look at it like the best young closer in the game for the 9th ranked 1st baseman for the 19th ranked outfielder in kemp. (this doesn\'t seem right then).
    The 3 outfielders are from one guy and the agonz is from another who owns mig cab so wouldn\'t mind moving agonz. At the moment I\'m waiting on the Kemp and lee for harang and paps 6th pick before I offer the paps for agonz.
    +1 for your fast reply DJK, always count on you!
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    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    I\'m confident SOMETHING will get done today. I\'m considering now doing a paps,harang for either ellsbury or mclouth and lee. THEN swapping that OF for agonz. so it would then be agonz and lee for harang and paps. now that I\'m guessing would be sweet.
    [u]16teamKeeper-10keepers-Head2Head[/u][b]
    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    I think I responded to this in the other thread:

    I have

    Kemp - Still getting better - I dont thik we\'ve seen really what he can do!

    AGon - He\'s topped out. He\'s putting up great numbers in SD - only a trade to somewhere l5 ike Texas will improve his numbers.

    Ellsbury - Up and coming, just not at Kemps\' level of 5 tool production

    McLouth - I dont think he will improve on last years stats. If he just maintains them - that\'s good production. I dont thave a lot of confidence in him repeating last year with so little protection.

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    Thanks porter...I think with needs and everything considered Agonz moves slightly ahead of kemp being that he\'s turning 27yrs old breakout. AND SMASHING the ball so far this year. The reason I prefer the kemp deal RIGHT now to the agonz is the upgrade of Harang to Lee. We shall see, I\'m pretty damn sure the guy won\'t move kemp...but he\'d likely move ellsbury or mclouth. The other guy I THINK would move agonz for either paps or mclouth/ellsbury. Thats where I\'m at now. ALL I know is I want to rid of paplebon cause of so many relievers available to draft. and so little 1st baseman.
    [u]16teamKeeper-10keepers-Head2Head[/u][b]
    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    Sounds like a good plan.

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    I personally would take Gonzo.

    I just can\'t see Lee duplicating last years numbers again!

    I do love Kemp though, so really for you it all comes down to team needs!

    Who are your other OF & 1B as of now?

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    Khanadian. My team is in sig. I don\'t have a 1st baseman now...and there is not much out there come draft time. (laroche,tracy,blalock,Garko,Shealy,butler,konerko ) My OF are grady and manny. we dress 3 and 1 U guy.

    I\'d say I don\'t have a strong need...if anything the only position i\'m missing is 1st base. There are a ton of closers available to draft so that is why I\'ve had enough of Paplebon keepage.
    [u]16teamKeeper-10keepers-Head2Head[/u][b]
    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    Porter, it looks like you\'ll get your wish...for now at least, he\'s offered ellsbury,lee for paps,harang and 6thround pick(meaningless). The whole part of me swapping ellsbury for Agonz isn\'t all that necessary. 50SB\'S and he didn\'t stay at top of order the whole year. I\'m guessing this year he will and he beefed up a little this offseason, reminding me of Grady. Would you trade Lee instead for Agonz? or hold onto top pitching cy young and try ellsbury?
    [u]16teamKeeper-10keepers-Head2Head[/u][b]
    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    You dont\' really need Lee with Haren, Johan, Webb, Sabathia...

    Flip him for AGon.

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    haha. I\'ll have to think about this. Nothing wrong with having the cy young to go with those other pitchers. He\'s been offering me agonz for haren as well...but forget that noise. i actually put Lee on the board for Hamilton. Wishful thinking I guess...
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    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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    To me there are Cy Young Pitchers... and there are pitchers who have won a Cy Young award.

    Lee is the latter. If you can convince the other manager to give up Hamilton for this pither who has won a Cy Young, perhaps I should ask you to negotiate a raise from my boss :P

    If he laughs at you, then tosses you AGon. You can giggle on the inside knowing you got what you needed and wanted all along.

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    Not the same owner...this other owner has zero pitching and quite a few outfielders. are you knocking my lee trade now!!? I\'m considering ellsbury for agonz right now.
    [u]16teamKeeper-10keepers-Head2Head[/u][b]
    Lincecum,Verlander,FelixHern,Lee,Minor,
    Dempster,Hughes,lynn,smyly,duffy
    Bell,Farnsworth,Marmol
    OF:J.Upton,McCutchen,AJones
    1B)VottoSS)Hanley2B)PEDROIA3B)LongoriaC)Soto

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