Luongo willing to waive NTC

[Loch]

I'm not the biggest fan but the way the media and fans rag on him is just brutal.

Agreed 110%

The man has been a good teammate and good member of the community and has been shit on mercilessly. I don't think he is the best choice for the Canucks in net going forward, but he hasn't deserved the abuse he has received in Van.

[wendelclark17]

Im have a feeling the Nucks fans will be wishing the still had Luongo come next January or February. I like Schneider and all and think he can be a very good goalie in Van but Luongo has, somewhat unfairly, been made the scapegoat for the team's failures in the last 2 post-seasons and I dont think he should be the only one to shoulder that blame.

[ridinryan44]

Exactly. They blame him for every loss and give credit to everyone else for most victories.

Can't pretend Luongo wasn't responsible for at least a small portion of their issues. He was directly responsible for some losses - he deserved a lot of the shit he took as he played like shit off and on.

[iamlilc]

Exactly. They blame him for every loss and give credit to everyone else for most victories.

Yup. I'm not a fan, but if I were him I'd almost welcome a trade at this point.

[ridinryan44]

Agreed 110%

I don't think he is the best choice for the Canucks in net going forward, but he hasn't deserved the abuse he has received in Van.

This.

Agreed. He wasn't consistent enough and wasn't able to find his form except in bursts in the last two years. Did he deserve all the shit he took? No, but he definitely dserved some of it, and I'm a fan for the most part.

[ridinryan44]

He would thrive in Tampa. They need to fix up the D a bit, but in terms of pressure , media, he'd relax ten fold coming from the Vancouver market. He'd do really well in Tampa. Now depending on how the CBA sorts out and the cap stuff plays...who knows, but Tampa is a very good landing spot for him.

A much more mellow market would go a long way, I think. Just let him find his game again.

[dyzfunctioned]

Exactly. They blame him for every loss and give credit to everyone else for most victories.

Yea - I could see him thriving in a smaller market like Tampa but given his age and such not sure he'll want to go to a team that isn't a competitor?

Anyways, places I could see him landing (though I still think Schneider will be the one traded):

Tampa
Isles
Devils
Jackets
Hawks
Toronto
Panthers
Sharks

If I were a betting man I'd roll the dice on Tampa though.

[dyzfunctioned]

That much easier to make a deal? He's still got a behemoth of a contract. You can't ignore that.

Still think Schneider is traded as the difference in return would be astronomical. I can't see them fetching much for Luongo.

[ridinryan44]

Exactly. They blame him for every loss and give credit to everyone else for most victories.

Can't agree with this. He was given credit when he deserved it. If he earned the win, it was mentioned. He went through some really tough bits, major inconsistency and as a goaltender you have too important of a role to play to be inconsistent. Nature of the beast.

Was he made a scapegoat by some media, yea, but I still stick to the fact that a lot of the negativity was deserved and directly related to his often poor and inconsistent play.

[ridinryan44]

That much easier to make a deal? He's still got a behemoth of a contract. You can't ignore that.

Still think Schneider is traded as the difference in return would be astronomical. I can't see them fetching much for Luongo.

Yes. The fact he's willing to waive his NTC is a HUGE difference in making a deal. Not sure how that could be percieved any differently.

Agreed the huge deal is still a problem but there is one monstrous road block out of the way.

At this point it's not so much the return that is the most important, but the clearing of the cap space for the next ten years.

[dyzfunctioned]

Yes. The fact he's willing to waive his NTC is a HUGE difference in making a deal. Not sure how that could be percieved any differently.

Agreed the huge deal is still a problem but there is one monstrous road block out of the way.

At this point it's not so much the return that is the most important, but the clearing of the cap space for the next ten years.

You act like you didn't expect him to waive his NTC. He's a #1 goalie who's been made the scapegoat for years and has recently been surpassed by a younger goalie. Did you really think that he'd be unwilling to be traded?

[ridinryan44]

You act like you didn't expect him to waive his NTC. He's a #1 goalie who's been made the scapegoat for years and has recently been surpassed by a younger goalie. Did you really think that he'd be unwilling to be traded?

I act that way 'cus I didn't think he would, lol. So, seems accurate. Considering how his family has played a role in where he plays (wife has family in FLA), I am very surprised that he would do so without mentioning he'd like a say in where he would go. From what he said it sounds as though he's simply willing to waive, no matter where he goes (can't say for sure that's the case). That's what surprises me.

Weren't we discussing the fact him waiving his NTC makes it easier to trade him?

[PensInThree]

TB would not only be fantastic for Lou with respect to the spotlight issue, but also given their offense-oriented system and poor depth on D. Somebody on here, I think in the context of speculating about Malone+Hedman for Lou said that sending Hedman would be a recipe for a lot of 5-4 games for/against TB.

I'm not so sure about that. Luongo's a different player when he's focused, and he's most focused when he's really busy. The difference between the Florida Luongo and the VCR Luongo is pretty noticable. And while there might be some question as to whether or not he could regain that form in his 'old' age, I saw a ridiculous stat that differentiated Luongo's record based on shot volume. (I think from this year). While I don't remember the details (post it if you know what I'm talking about), it was pretty clear that even now Luongo performs far, far better when busy.

Luongo to TB -- match made in heaven?

[iamlilc]

Yea - I could see him thriving in a smaller market like Tampa but given his age and such not sure he'll want to go to a team that isn't a competitor?

Anyways, places I could see him landing (though I still think Schneider will be the one traded):

Tampa
Isles
Devils
Jackets
Hawks
Toronto
Panthers
Sharks

If I were a betting man I'd roll the dice on Tampa though.

I can see EDM in the running as well, even though they have Dubnyk.

They could do something like Gagner/Omark/MPS and Khabibulin for Luongo.

[dyzfunctioned]

TB would not only be fantastic for Lou with respect to the spotlight issue, but also given their offense-oriented system and poor depth on D. Somebody on here, I think in the context of speculating about Malone+Hedman for Lou said that sending Hedman would be a recipe for a lot of 5-4 games for/against TB.

I'm not so sure about that. Luongo's a different player when he's focused, and he's most focused when he's really busy. The difference between the Florida Luongo and the VCR Luongo is pretty noticable. And while there might be some question as to whether or not he could regain that form in his 'old' age, I saw a ridiculous stat that differentiated Luongo's record based on shot volume. (I think from this year). While I don't remember the details (post it if you know what I'm talking about), it was pretty clear that even now Luongo performs far, far better when busy.

Luongo to TB -- match made in heaven?

There is literally no chance in hell that Hedman is moved for Luongo, let alone Hedman and Malone.