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    Quote Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned View Post
    You and me both. People keep asking why I'm cheering for Boston and it's because I want WSH knocked out in first round.
    I get the feeling that he saved his job by making the playoffs. It's not hard to imagine the "we took the Stanley Cup champions to game 7" reasoning carrying the day.

    Maybe they'll hire Crawford....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    I get the feeling that he saved his job by making the playoffs. It's not hard to imagine the "we took the Stanley Cup champions to game 7" reasoning carrying the day.

    Maybe they'll hire Crawford....
    Don't think barely slipping into the playoffs would have been enough. But if they make it to the 2nd round it will be.

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    Merely getting to game 7 isn't going to save Dale Hunter, but winning probably will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berni67 View Post
    Spezza and Gaborik came back strong this season, so why not Green next year. He's pretty talented, and I don't think he lost it all.
    Spezza and Gaborik were and are the offensive cornerstones of their respective teams. Green is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeds of Grapes View Post
    Spezza and Gaborik were and are the offensive cornerstones of their respective teams. Green is not.
    Not sure about that argument. What exactly do you mean by "cornerstone"? I can't think of many teams on which I wouldn't include their top offensive D, let alone one that topped a PPG two years in a row, as a "cornerstone".

    If they key word is "is", then essentially its a circular argument. I think the previous poster's point is that one, even 2 injury-plagued down years should not prevent a return to form in the future. The counter-argument that Green is currently not an offensive powerhouse is not disputed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    Not sure about that argument. What exactly do you mean by "cornerstone"? I can't think of many teams on which I wouldn't include their top offensive D, let alone one that topped a PPG two years in a row, as a "cornerstone".

    If they key word is "is", then essentially its a circular argument. I think the previous poster's point is that one, even 2 injury-plagued down years should not prevent a return to form in the future. The counter-argument that Green is currently not an offensive powerhouse is not disputed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeds of Grapes View Post
    Spezza and Gaborik were and are the offensive cornerstones of their respective teams. Green is not.
    Difference is Spezza has two "down" seasons but he was still essentially a ppg (over .90 ppg) in the games he played. Gaborik was a bit farther off from a ppg player last year but he still scored at .77 ppg pace. Green hasnt scored at anywhere close to a ppg pace since the 09-10 season and over the last 2 season he has scored at a 0.38 ppg pace, thats a HUGE dropoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wendelclark17 View Post
    Difference is Spezza has two "down" seasons but he was still essentially a ppg (over .90 ppg) in the games he played. Gaborik was a bit farther off from a ppg player last year but he still scored at .77 ppg pace. Green hasnt scored at anywhere close to a ppg pace since the 09-10 season and over the last 2 season he has scored at a 0.38 ppg pace, thats a HUGE dropoff.
    exactly

    his ppg has halved each season
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    Not sure about that argument. What exactly do you mean by "cornerstone"? I can't think of many teams on which I wouldn't include their top offensive D, let alone one that topped a PPG two years in a row, as a "cornerstone".

    If they key word is "is", then essentially its a circular argument. I think the previous poster's point is that one, even 2 injury-plagued down years should not prevent a return to form in the future. The counter-argument that Green is currently not an offensive powerhouse is not disputed.
    I stand by my argument. Ottawa relied on Spezza for offense, and NYR relied on Gaborik for offense. If Ottawa loses Spezza or NYR lose Gaborik, it would be big trouble. Not so with Green on Wahington. Carlson, Hamrlik and Wideman are all good offensive D, and their forwards, no matter how poorly they play, are a threat night in and night out. Washington can do without Green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeds of Grapes View Post
    I stand by my argument. Ottawa relied on Spezza for offense, and NYR relied on Gaborik for offense. If Ottawa loses Spezza or NYR lose Gaborik, it would be big trouble. Not so with Green on Wahington. Carlson, Hamrlik and Wideman are all good offensive D, and their forwards, no matter how poorly they play, are a threat night in and night out. Washington can do without Green.
    One of these is not like the other. Green is the most offensively gifted defenseman on the Capitals team period. Whether he can get the ice time he deserves under Coach Hunter remains to be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffl97 View Post
    One of these is not like the other. Green is the most offensively gifted defenseman on the Capitals team period. Whether he can get the ice time he deserves under Coach Hunter remains to be seen.
    he isnt required to earn his icetime
     
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    Green is definitely elite, but he is, IMO, no longer 70 point elite. 50-55 is where I peg him, if healthy, and if on Washington.
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    I watched tonight, and he was not too bad. Near 25 minutes of ice time. Played on PP and PK. He was not outplayed by opponent. I think he'll bounce back.
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    Well damn. There goes my hopes of the Caps going back to run and gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned View Post
    Well damn. There goes my hopes of the Caps going back to run and gun.
    Yea not too happy with that win from a fantasy standpoint
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    Green is looking healthy again and although no points today, he is looking like a force offensively again
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