Reply With Quotei think this trade will come down to personal preferance. to close to call.
Blockbuster which side?
Tavares Nash Doughty
or
Kopitar B.Ryan E.Karlsson
Cats in sign.
Thanks!
i think this trade will come down to personal preferance. to close to call.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
Man that is a TOUGH one...
But I like the Kopitar side by a hair... I think Kopi is the best player in that group (although Tavares will be very close), but the clincher for me is Ryan who is miles ahead of Nash (who in my opinion is the most overrated fantasy player in the league).
Very tough call...
Last edited by blayze; October 12, 2011 at 2:07 PM.
Agree I take the Ryan side by a hair.Originally Posted by blayze
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Yeah this is damn close - personally I would take the Kopi/Ryan/EK side.
12 Team Dynasty, H2H (points)
Dress 2C, 4W, 1F, 4D, 1G (Daily)
G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)
C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
Fm - Bordeleau, Barlow, Lucius, G.Perreault, Luneau, Perunovich, Nikishin
Indeed.
B.Ryan and Karlsson are two of my favorite players on the planet we call earth, so I'll go with them.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
Would you care to elaborate on this statement? Ryan miles ahead of Nash? The way I see it, Nash is the only one who has surpassed the 40g plateau...the entire offense flows through him (rather than Ryan who has Getz/Perry ahead of him)...I think these two are pretty much as even as you can have when it comes to fantasy relevance/upside.
I personally agree that this is just too close to call and it comes down to personal preference. I happen to prefer the Tavares side and to me the deciding factor is DD>Karlsson. Both are good but I prefer DD in your format as I feel he'll be a better contributor this year and for the forseeable future.
I also like Tavares over Kopitar in a keeper league. This is by the slightest of margins as I think Kopitar is better right now but I feel as though Tavares is going to make the jump into superstardom within two years and at worst he's very comparable to what Kopitar is today.
As I mentioned earlier I feel Nash and Ryan are pretty much a straight mirror image of each other...one can argue the slight edge goes to Ryan due to him being younger...tomatoes...tomaatoes...
10-team Auction League, $160 team salary, weekly H2H, start: 6F, 4D, 1G and 5 Bench
Scoring structure: (F : 1pt G / 1pt A / 0.15pts SOG / 0.15pts Hits / 0.15pts BlkS), (G : 5 pts W / 3 pts SO / 0.01 pts Saves)
Forwards : Ovechkin ($43), Kessel ($20), Benn ($7), Spezza ($13), Brown ($7), Marchand ($13), Landeskog ($3), Elias ($1), Plekanec ($1),
Defenses : Letang ($26), Visnovsky ($1), Bieksa ($1), Faulk ($2) Ehrhoff ($2)
Goalies : Holtby ($7), Nabokov ($2)
Thanks everyone. As shown in my sign I took the trade and ended up with the Kopitar side. I think it will be stronger, at least this year.
Man it´s tough making these kind of deals.
This is crazy talk. Let's not toss the baby out with the dish water here.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
I would have to strongly disagree with you here.
Let's do a quick comparison:
Ryan - 24 years old
point totals: 57, 64, 71 (notice the UPWARD trajectory)
Nash - 27 years old
point totals: 39, 57, 54, 57, 69, 79, 67, 66 (notice the Steady/Downward trajectory)
Factor in on top of that:
-Ryan gets more PIMS
-Ryan has better +/-
-Ryan had very limited ice-time in his first 2 seasons because of the ducks depth so he didn't really have a chance to shine
-Ryan plays on the top line in the whole league
-Ryan is a LW which is a more shallow position
Not even CLOSE.
The truth of the matter is Nash is one of those guys who plays the right way, brings energy, is exciting to watch... but let's be honest... he is a perennial 60-70 point guy. He has only cracked 70 points ONCE in 9 seasons... I'm always astounded at how people draft him in the 2nd-3rd round like as if they're expecting a monster 90point break out year or something.
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