How many points is Claude Giroux going to get

[sportsfan23454]

He is ranked far back on espn and I want to get him. How many points do you think he will put up. most people think he will get around 60

[737power]

i have him getting around 65 points

[Maaaasquito]

I'm thinking 50... just too much depth in Philly. If Richards picked up just 62 while averaging 20:24 and 3:16 on the PP. And Carter picked up 61 while averaging 19:18 and 3:05 on the PP, I don't think Giroux would get much more than that if he averages just 15-16 mins a game...

[mister_mcgoo]

He has the most potential to 'blow up' on that team but its so deep that i think 50-60 is a more reasonable bet

[rainydrinkwater]

24 goals 39 assists this year. Next year 75+, and he will never look back.

[Maaaasquito]

Also just digging a little deeper into the stats, there just isn't that much more room to improve...

Last year their team put up 2.83 goals per game, which was ranked 8th in the league in that department.

Let's say if we give them the benefit of the doubt and with the offense that they have increase their goal scoring to 3.27 (what Van put up last season), that would give them an extra 36 goals on the season, or 108 points increase from last season.

If we assume that Richards gets back to 80 points, same with Carter... that knocks off 40 points...

Syvret, Bartulis, Parent, Krajicek, Tollefsen shared 20 points between them, so factor in Meszaros (for about 35 points???) that knocks off another 15...

Coburn should put up more than 19, let's say 25, so that's another 5 gone...

Briere averaged 1.30 points per game during the playoffs and just 0.71 during the regular season, let's say he bumps that back up to his 0.93 point per game average in the last 4 years, which would give him an end of year total of 76 points, so there's another increase of 20 points...

Now chuck in Leino who had a post-season 1.11 point-per-game average, let's say he gets half of that during the regular season... that's an end of year output of 45 points, compared to the 4 last season... let's say some of those points come from Asham, Carcillo and Laperriere, but you're still looking at around 10-20 points to be made up...

Gagne only had 40 points last season, so if you factor in Zherdev as a 1-to-1 replacement for Gagne. That's around a wash.. If you think Zherdev actually will do better than Gagne, there's another factor to eat up the points...

Now if you think about Giroux and you think he has 60+ point potential, that's another increase of 13 points that needs to come from somewhere...

And this is all assuming that Hartnell, JVR, and the rest of the D remain status quo... if everyone picks up a couple of points here and there there's not much room for points.

Well many of you could argue that 3.27 goals per game is a bit low isn't it?

In the last 4 seasons, only Buf (3.63 , 2006), Ott (3.49, 2006), Det (3.52, 2008), Bos (3.29), Wsh (3.27, 2008), Wsh (3.82, 2009) and Van (3.27, 2009), have hit that mark, so setting a bar of 3.27 is already pretty high IMO...

If you head into the season thinking 50 then you've covered your bases... if he gets 60 it's gravy. If you head in thinking 60 and he gets 45 you're out 15 points...

[WildCard2180]

Originally Posted by Gotlaid

I'm thinking 50... just too much depth in Philly. If Richards picked up just 62 while averaging 20:24 and 3:16 on the PP. And Carter picked up 61 while averaging 19:18 and 3:05 on the PP, I don't think Giroux would get much more than that if he averages just 15-16 mins a game...

I wouldn't use last years numbers as proof of anything. I'm a Philly fan and, along with any other Philly fan, I can tell you that a lot of shit went on last season that made it an anomaly in terms of numbers. Just the sheer fact that nearly every Flyers player had a down year last year in terms of numbers should tell you that.

As for Giroux, he's suffering from two things right now that are hampering his point totals. First of all, he's on an extremely deep team, deeper then any other team in the league. He has to compete with seven other top six forwards for ice-time. That's kind of ridiculous.

He's also been constantly flip-flopped between Center and Wing throughout his short NHL career. Kind of hard to get anything going when your position and line is constantly being changed.

With all that said, assuming a full 82 games, I would expect somewhere around 20 goals, 60 points from him. Give or take five points.

[Maaaasquito]

That's what I'm alluding to, despite the "down" year that they had, they still had the 8th best offense in the league... so if I give them the benefit of the doubt and say they can get up to 3.27 and get to 2nd in the league, there's only so many points to go around... If you read my long post before if everyone gets back to "normal" the team will generally get better but not that much better... If you're thinking 60 for Giroux, then someone else has to miss out on the points...

You can't have everyone in putting up 60 points...

[AwkwardMongoose]

Well said, gotlaid.

[WildCard2180]

Originally Posted by Gotlaid

That's what I'm alluding to, despite the "down" year that they had, they still had the 8th best offense in the league... so if I give them the benefit of the doubt and say they can get up to 3.27 and get to 2nd in the league, there's only so many points to go around... If you read my long post before if everyone gets back to "normal" the team will generally get better but not that much better... If you're thinking 60 for Giroux, then someone else has to miss out on the points...

You can't have everyone in putting up 60 points...

We're going to have a high-scoring team. So having high point totals isn't that far off. My predictions for my team:

Richards: Around 80 points. Capable of 30 goals.
Carter: Around 80 points. Capable of 40 goals.
Hartnell: Around 55 to 65 points. Capable of 30 goals (just barely though).
Leino: Around 25 to 40 points, capable of 15 to 20 goals.
Zherdev: 55 to 65 points. Capable of 25 to 30 goals.
Giroux: Around 60 points. Capable of 20 goals.
JVR: Around 45 to 55 points. Capable of 20 goals I guess.
Briere: Around 60 to 70 points, capable of 30 goals.

That's assuming complete health and best-case scenario though. Which is unrealistic. However, that's what I believe our players are capable of.

If we had a legitimate starter then I believe we're the best team in the league, including offensively so to have high predictions isn't unrealistic for this year.