I continue to see C Lee in the top 6 or 7 SP for this year, looks like you've gone the other direction
lots o love for Hellickson & Harrison
In an expansion to my article called Re-ranking the top ten starting pitchers, here is my top 20.
The plus/minus numbers indicate if one has risen or fallen in my rankings since writing the article.
1. Justin Verlander
2. Felix Hernandez
3. Clayton Kershaw
4. David Price (+1)
5. Matt Cain (-1)
6. Madison Bumgarner
7. Stephen Strasburg
8. Jered Weaver
9. Johnny Cueto
10. Chris Sale
11. Cole Hamels
12. Gio Gonzalez
13. R.A. Dickey
14. Yovani Gallardo
15. Zack Greinke
16. Yu Darvish
17. C.C. Sabathia
18. Jeremy Hellickson
19. Huroki Kuroda
20. Matt Harrison
Look for other lists from me in the coming days.
Last edited by dmvincent; January 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM.
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I continue to see C Lee in the top 6 or 7 SP for this year, looks like you've gone the other direction
lots o love for Hellickson & Harrison
I think Wainwright will have a big season, never too soon to start talking baseball. Thoughts on Morrow/J.Johnson?
I think Jordan Zimmerman deserves a spot in their as well
You know you're totally out of it when you still think Roy Halladay is still a top20 starting pitcher in baseball.
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I don't disagree, it's tough putting together these rankings and leaving out guys like Scherzer, Lee, Zimmermann and Wainwright. Johnson is in a contract year and playing with a much better team, lots if reason to believe a big year is coming.
As for Morrow, always liked him but he can either be completely dominant or struggle, he didn't finish well last year and the AL East division continues to get stronger.
Halladay is not top 20 material anymore, quite simply put.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
Lee had a strange year, he couldn't buy a win despite pitching very well. I know he's a very good pitcher, but the lineups in the National League continue to improve as some of the young players grow with experience. Players like Bryce Harper and Jason Heyward will be that much more dangerous this upcoming season.
Secondly, I'm still not convinced the Phillies are a great team. Sure, they added Revere, Michael Young, Mike Adams and Delmon Young but how much better does that make them? They improve, but I'm not ready to say this team is very dangerous.
Lee will also be without catcher Carlos Ruiz, as he was suspended 50 games for doping. Ruiz has a reputation for calling a great game. Can Erik Kratz do the same? He also pitches in a hitter friendly park.
I can understand why some people want to bet on Lee this year, but I'd rather go with someone else.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
my top 25
best 4; stras, price, verlander, kershaw
next 11; felix, hamels, cain, giog, clee, greinke, bummer, darvish, dickey, sale, weaver
next ten; wainwright, ccs, medlen, shields, scherzer, halladay, gallardo, latos, jzim, cueto, moore
big drop to the next group, headed by morrow and peavy.
dobber pro 2012-2013; campbell conference
c; b richards, ribiero, desharnias, zajac
lw; sedin, e kane, pacioretty, kunitz
rw; kessel, callaghan, cole, paranteau
d; chara, seabrook, souray, leddy, markov, s elliott
g; rinne, elliott
bench; garon, giguerre, hodgson, orpik, d roy
ir; nobody, yet