I don't believe either team would do this deal, to be honest.
I know it's been mentioned a bit on these forums. Would just like to hear more discussion on what you think would make this work. Obviously both need a change of scenery. And this does seem like a good fit for both. But salary issues would come into play with Gally making 2.5 to 3m more.
I think Habs fans would love this. Not so sure about Flames fans.
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I don't believe either team would do this deal, to be honest.
The numbers would indicate that Calgary has to add something to the mix for Montreal to make that kind of move.
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Montreal can say Galchenyuk at least has a 30G season under his young belt. Calgary has nothing to say about Bennett.
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Would like to see Calgary add a little something but if this trade happened straight across I could live with it. Still think Bennett could turn it around, just needs a change of scenery imo.
Yeah, no way Montreal trades Galchenyuk for Bennett straight up. There's absolutely no benefit for Montreal in this deal.
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Would Calgary have to add? I dunno. Obviously Canadians fans overvalue Galchenyuk and Flames fans overvalue Bennett, but do the management teams? Galchenyuk makes $4.9 million and is a UFA at the end of his contract. That’s an expensive risk, both in cap space (if Galchenyuk doesn’t turn it around) and assets (if Galchenyuk doesn’t want to stick around). Bennett is a $1.95 and an RFA when that contract expires. Montreal could sell Galchenyuk as a potential 30 goal scorer, Calgary could sell Bennett as having a very similar first two seasons to Galchenyuk (arguably better, since he scored more goals and points). I’m really not sure about their possession stats, but that’s also hard to judge since Bennett has spent a large portion of his career hampered by the anchor that is Brouwer. Calgary could argue Galchenyuk is more injury prone, Montreal could argue Bennett hasn’t really taken a step this year.
Would Calgary have to add? Maybe, I dunno. Not much I don’t think.
Like I said. Honestly I don’t think either team would do the deal. Most teams would rather gamble with the player they know than the player they don’t.
Yes there is Newf. Not only would the Habs would gain cap space but more importantly they would gain number of years the player is under club control. I am not speaking the players themselves, but to their contractual obligations.
Making the assumption that Alex Galchenyuk is likely* not going to sign with Montreal when his 3 year x $4.9M contract expires in 2020 the Canadiens have Galychenyuk for the balance of this season and all of next before he is playing out the final year. Holding that contract then means the Habs are in a spot where they need to sign or trade Galchenyuk, or risky a 26 (then) year old asset walk away starting July 1, 2019. This is only 19 months away.
Sam Bennett is playing under year four of his rights being exclusivly held by the Calgary Flames. Recall the 2014-15 season where he played the final game of the season then 11 playoff games (and the CBC annoucer repeated ad nauseam refering to his as "18 year old Sam Bennett") which burnt a year of his entry level contract. He is under contract for the next two season at $1.9M per season. This contract was signed in early September of this season after a long summer stand-off. When Bennett's current contract ends in 2019 he will still have two seasons remaining as a RFA.
Should this imaginary trade propasal go down the Habs would have the asset of Bennett for at least four years (this season included) with the likelyhood* that the contract he signs after this current two year deal will be longer than simply the two final RFA years.
*based on current assumptions that you may or may not agree with.
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The way Burke has talked about Bennett recently I don't think he's in a major hurry to move him. But he's willing to if the right deal comes around.
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The Flames would never do this deal, even if at this point in the respective careers Galchenyuk appears to be the better player. He's had far better line mates and opportunities than Bennett, who for some reason has been saddled with bottom-six pluggers for most of this career. The Flames did not treat Gaudreau and Monahan this way.
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